So many kitchen reno questions
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Two dumb kitchen reno questions (plumbing and walls)
Comments (16)1) plumbing is the same for kitchen and laundry. Mine back to one another and share the same drain lines and vent stack and the water lines are in the same run together. Distance from the vent stack is a consideration if they are going to share it so you need to verify code for that in your plan or you might need a second vent stack if the areas are too far apart. If they are side by side or very close you are fine. 2) You just need a header to open up a load bearing wall. Your building dept will sign off your plans prior issuing the permit and verify that you have everything to code. I highly recommend opening up the wall. I did two in the house I live in now and one in the house I am moving to in a couple weeks. I was fortunate in all three cases there was a pocket door in the location I opened the wall so my long header was already there but it really isn't technically challenging to put one in. The difference in feel of the houses and flow from the rooms is amazing....See MoreSo many questions for my Kitchen Renovation
Comments (10)That island already has very tight clearances, and if you try to cram seats in the space, you're going to end up with a traffic jam and some accidents. It already needs to be narrower, and then you want seating for 5? Gonna be tough to accomplish safely. There's only the single drawer stack to the right of the sink. That's not great for your storage needs. Drawers hold a lot more than do doors with shelves. To be able to put in a large pro style range, you will need to rework the entire stove run, base and uppers. The easiest thing would be to take the cabinets down entirely, as you'll need a larger vent that won't work with that size uppers. That vent will need to vent to the exterior. Which means going up through the roof or horizontally through a wall to the exterior. If you also want to add a wall oven, probably beside the fridge or at the end of the run on the fridge wall, then that entire run will need to be redone as well. There are several other issues that need remedy such as the shallow above the fridge cabinet. Potentially the soffit itself. You've already spent more in labor than the cabinets cost the builder. 2-3K in labor. The cabinets do not look to be worth paying labor to paint. It's certainly not a granite kitchen without new cabinets. Professionally painting would be around 3-4K for your layout and you're still left with builder's grade cabs with paint with all of their current storage issues and lack of quality. If you can DIY paint them as an interim solution for a couple of years until you do a full scale remodel that would be a different story. DIY labor is always worth doing if you don't kill yourself doing it. But the moment you start having to pay labor, that becomes the point that this kitchen isn't worth reworking cosmetically. It's time to address the bones. Take the 7K that it would cost you to do the cabinet alterations and paint and buy new cabinets after posting your layout here for suggestions for optimum efficiency. That means that your project won't be done before you move in, but it's better that it's delayed and done right than done in a rush with not so great results. Also, be very sure that you want to live with a dark floor if it's as dark as it sounds. Dark floors show every bit of dust and dirt and aren't the easiest thing to live with even if you don't have kids. Medium toned floors are more forgiving. But, if you LOVE that floor, and you're fully informed and willing to take on it's upkeep, then by all means go for it! Buy plenty of extra so that when you redo your kitchen, you have enough to work with an altered layout....See MoreMCM kitchen Reno: 2part question-keep or change?
Comments (14)oh wow, live_wire, that last photo from B&G 1965 is SO neat!! I agree, i definitely want to preserve the unique quality of the home, it would be a shame to remuddle it. the breakfast nook corner is a 100 degree angle-- it was quite a hoot when we tried to move our square table into the spot and kept arguing over whose side was crooked! :) Fori, excellent point! and good eye, yes it is mahogany! walnut does seem to change a lot, so everyone's help leads me to believe we should just keep the trim, wait to see how it looks with new cabinets, and decide from there!! this was one project that I thought looked neat with mixed woods:...See Morebuying first remodel, 1906 four square and I have SO MANY QUESTIONS
Comments (2)I've done a ton of renovations and fell into the "charm" trap before - run. Don't do it -especially now. There are so many people doing work on homes that construction prices in most areas have skyrocketed not to mention the delays. The cost of many renovations items outside of labor have jumped and some are simply not available. If budget is an issue, everything you talk about is way more expensive than you likely thing - and the second you start opening walls up you likely will need to fully redo plumbing, electrical, etc... I would say you will need at least 200k, 300 if there is any addition/attic work - and that is for very modest types of finishes, there is way more than you think......See MoreDYH
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