Again this is not Summer nor is it Spring, and we are still geting a lot of rain if they are outside. Droping excessive leaves is uaually a sign of too much water, if they are the same ones that I have. I don't know how I can say this in a different way. It is a cultural problem. Norma

Plubienewbie2, Do check for spider mites. If they are present,then you can treat. When i did view your trees, i did notice that the soil looked rather rich and heavy, but i didnt want to say anything since its not the time to repot. Since you did mention that you will repot this summer, then i would definately go to a lighter mix and think twice before you add fine sand into the mix. IMO... ther are all sorts of mixes available and easy one to make up. Especially since you used the soil from another pot!!! Yikes!!! : ) They are doing well for the winter. Keep an eye on the water . DOnt use to much during the winter. I bet you will see a big improvement this summer when you repot in a better draining mix!!! I am still very happy with the way your trees look, especially in the middle of the winter. You will have leaf loss. If you think you have spider mites, it can be fixed quite quickly since they haven;t damaged your plants to much. look under the leaves and on top and really give them a good check. Anyway, I think they look great!! Good job!!! Chuy, Remember "Atictropical?" and how his Plumerias look like? He lives in Utah and has many beautiful tropicals as well as these awesome Palms planted in the ground. He truly is a "zone pusher" He does use lights in the winter, but that usually isnt a problem. So yes, you can grow Plumeria in Utah!! DOnt worry, they will adjust !! Kevin, I hope you see this and let Chuy know how you grow your Plumies!!! Thanks, Kevin!!! : ) Take care, Laura

Not enough draining going on. The top Echeveria you should cut the top off till good flesh is exposed. No brown parts. So the rot doesn't spread to the pup on the side. The Lime and Chile Echeveria is probably a goner from the looks of it. Once that center is rotted there's no turning back. I have had miracles happen;). Don't hold your breath though. Succulents should always be in containers with drainage holes. I'm not saying without the drainage holes it can't be done, but it's more complicated;). Also, adding half perlite or pumice makes all the difference in the world;).

I would do what advice most experienced ppl do here, which is check soil way deep down w/ chopstick to see if its still wet near bottom of pot before watering. Yes, I use Miracle Grow feet. In yellow bottle, 1/4 tsp per gallon at EVERY watering, year round. Except for this plant. MIL did not want me to fertilize it, idk why. Your soil is most likely bagged soil, & I never had luck w/ that. I didn't really become good w/ plant keeping until I switched from bagged soils to Al's 511 mix. Look up on here an article called "good growing practices". Idh the link to it handy. Sorry. I'm thinking maybe your plant is root bound.