Sending my floor plan modifications to the architect. Ideas?
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My floor plan ..ideas please!
Comments (29)The hall is 4'4" wide. It is 38' from the front wall of the foyer to the laundry room wall. That IS a pretty long hallway, but I think of the hallway as actually beginning where the angled wall ends. If the 38'unbroken length bothers you, you could put a wall with a cased opening across the hall at the point where the angled part ends to delineate the foyer from the hall. From that point back the hallway is only 24' long which, while still long in not out of scale. If properly lighted, a 4'4" x 24' hallway would provide a wonderful space to hang artwork or family portraits. As for French door to the patio, In the design above, you could use french doors in the kitchen where I showed a slider. They'll fit just fine. But, if you're wanting a second set of patio doors from kitchen to patio, you're limited by the amount of exterior wall space that is left AFTER you put in your sink (which you said you wanted under a window) and necessary cabinetry around it. It might be possible to put in a second set of patio doors but only by making the kitchen about 6' wider - which I think would look funny and would not be a very useful kitchen shape. OR I suppose it could be done by removing the whole mudroom/office/side entry thing so that the kitchen has a second exterior wall and then turning everything in the kitchen around. But, then you would probably need to have a wall between the dining room and the kitchen just to have a place for your refrigerator and that wall would ruin the "open look" you said you wanted. I could pull the mudroom forward so it is about where the screened porch is now to give the kitchen a second exterior wall - but then you lose the windows in the dining nook and it becomes in "interior room" - especially if you have to have a wall of cabinets between the dining nook and the kitchen. IF you're not asking for space for a second set of french doors in the kitchen, then I'm not sure I understand what you're wanting with regard to the request to "open up the back of the house with French doors". Are you asking if the masterbedroom can be moved to the back and have French doors opening off of it to the patio? That might be doable by basically swapping the master suite with the laundry room and 2 secondary bedrooms. But then the master bedroom will lose the view to the front. Also if I move the one of the secondary bedrooms and laundry to the front and middle of the house, are you going to want the same number and size windows (which I envisioned as nearly floor to ceiling) in the secondary bedroom or laundry as in the Great Room? If not, then then the front elevation will lose the sense of symmetry it has now. Symmetry may or may not be important to you so you have to let me know. Also, if one of the secondary bedrooms is moved to the other side of the house, it has to connect to the rest of the house somewhere. I know you don't want it to go up against the left living room wall because that would cause you to lose the windows on either side of the fireplace. A bedroom could connect to the dining room (unless we've pulled the mud room area forward) but then that also makes the dining room an "interior room" instead of being flooded with light like it is now. Also, it is kind of weird to go from dining room to bedroom and, with the bathroom so far away, you would need to put in a 3rd bathroom OR make the 1/2 bath in the mudroom into at least a 3/4 bath. That leave putting the secondary bedroom up against the left-side kitchen wall (where the mudroom is now) which means the mudroom has to move forward. If we do that, then you still don't have a second exterior wall for the kitchen... so still no second set of patio doors, and you still need to put in a 3rd bathroom to serve that bedroom. I guess there is one other alternative and that is to leave the mudroom where it is but take out the office and attach the second bedroom to the mudroom (either against the left wall or against the back wall of the mudroom). The first would make the house much wider and it would probably look like the bedroom had been a garage that was later converted to a bedroom. Putting the bedroom at the back would make the house form an L around the patio. In either case, you would go thru the mudroom to get to the bedroom. I've seen a few plans like that but I don't care much for them as, to me, a bedroom opening off the mudroom seems like maybe it was meant to be servant's quarters or something. Also, moving a bedroom to either or those locations would DEFINITELY give the house more "bumps and corners" so the per square foot cost of building would go up dramatically. I'm ALWAYS up for a challenge but I'm not seeing any way to do what I think you want. I did play around last week with making the plan a little smaller which resulted in some interesting differences (although none that gave you more back-patio access). I think I got the plan down to just under 2500 sq ft. If you want, I will post the reduced square footage plan when I get home to my own computer instead of this laptop. (Am on a trip out of town right now myself.)...See MoreFloor Plan Idea's on my New Plans
Comments (8)I agree with Green that the garage will dominate the facade. Re: the kitchen size issue: The corner pantry and angled island make it feel cramped. You could try this: rotate the front hall closet and move the pantry to the space that was kind of unused to the right of the guest bath; change the door to swing in. Straigten the island. Move the refrigerator to the end of the range run; this means that diners can grab a beverage refill without walking past the work zone. If you are rather formal diners and don't like the looks of a fridge so close, consider getting a panelled fridge. (See mockup.) Also, post your plans on the kitchens forum - there are loads of talented layout folks there....See MoreStock House Plan with Modifications - Good Idea?
Comments (12)If you think about it, remodeling your average tract house is literally "modifying a stock plan," so by that standard, it is entirely possible, and millions of people have done it, including me. At present, I am in the process of building from the same plan that I happen to be living in, with a few changes such as a master on the main. So that's do-able as well. One thing, however. Universal design is a big topic, with a lot of decisions and tradeoffs along the way. For example, are you talking about using a wheelchair, eyesight issues, strength issues, or general cognitive decline? Are you making any provision for live-in help? Will you be able to afford a housekeeper, handyman, and landscape service? IMO, cognitive decline is one of the most difficult issues to plan for, because it's not just an engineering/architectural issue. There are many stages of decline, from intermittent forfetfulness, to full blown Alzheimer's, and one may not be fully aware of the decline as it is happening. In other words, we may be less and less able than we think we are, and the rate of deterioration can accelerate, without our noticing. I see this in older relatives-- they don't realize that they shouldn't be driving a car anymore, or listening to the nice young quack pill merchant, or getting on the tall ladder to wash second story windows! The most dangerous thing is the older person living alone, with no one to check up. There's also the danger of losing money management skills, failing to pay bills, getting caught in scams, losing inhibitions about spending, or various forms of hoarding behavior. This is why so many people end up in some form of assisted living. So it's not just a design issue, it's multi-faceted: social, financial, legal, etc. I would strongly advise you to research the topic before you plunge in, so you can figure out what you want, based on most likely health scenarios, and your budget-- leaving a very generous sum of money for the last few years of life....See MoreLocal Architect or Modifications with the Architect of a Stock Plan?
Comments (12)Mark, thanks for the comments. I previously read the threads describing the work that ArchitectRunnerGuy did with his Florida client (apologies as I don't remember his user name). Reading through those was very enlightening for me. It really helped me better understand my frustrations when reviewing stock plans and brought me to the realization that there were other, often much better, options available. In my mind, local means someone within a reasonable driving distance to the site who can visit/walk the site and is available for in person meetings. I've been mentally debating this option versus what I consider a more long distance working relationship where an in person visit might be possible but would require plane tickets or a long car ride. Given electronic communication options, a face to face meeting might not even be necessary but this is just how I set up the mental debate. Reading about what ArchitectRunnerGuy is able to do without being local to the site (again using my definition of local here) helped me to see that we didn't have to be limited by the expertise available in an 100 radius of our land. However, I still imagine there are some benefits to working with someone closer, provided a suitable match can be found. Here I'm considering some of the pros as personal knowledge of the climate, local culture, codes, permitting, local builders and subs, real estate market, etc. But then again, I also imagine the right builder can help bridge any gaps that might exist in the other option....See Morehouserookie
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