Local Architect or Modifications with the Architect of a Stock Plan?
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Kristin S
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Question re architects plans and copying.. Mighty anvil or others
Comments (30)Why does the Association want a copy? Personally, I wouldn't want anyone to have a copy that doesn't need one/isn't legally required to have one. One thing I don't like about where we live is that anyone can go to town hall and get a copy of a plan. So someone can figure out the best way to break into my house without even having to scout it out. Think about it, some custom plans even have rooms labeled, "Baby's room, "Katie's room, "Dylan's room". Not good for that to be public. Where we lived before you had to give your name and address, show and ID, and wait a week or so to get a copy of a plan. Technically, any copying of a plan without permission is infringement. What the Association wants, I assume, is one of the 10+ construction copies you have. Just like you probably had to give one to the town. There is no copyright infringment if you give the association a copy. The infringement comes about if they copy that, or let someone copy it (and the copier would be infringing also). But you wouldn't be infringing....See MoreHiring a stock plan Architect (i.e. WIllaim Poole, John Tee, etc.
Comments (15)I'm interested in how things turned out for you and your house. Are you done building? Back in 2002, I started looking for plans for our present home. Thousands of views later, nothing met our wants list. I mean nothing. So, I, too, liked the looks of Tee's and Poole's designs the best. Where they fail, imho, is their room sizes and not enough closets; which seem to be typical mistakes from most designers. It took a year and a half for my dh and I to settle on a plan; two months to draw it up; 14 mos. to build. The finishing techniques can always be added to a home after a home is constructed, if it must happen that way. What's important is that you get good bones: great framing, radiant barrier & foam insulation, good windows, ample room sizes, wider halls and doorways, smooth ceilings, and great flow in a kitchen with a terrific size island... and lots of lower drawers in kitchens instead of cabinets. What can't fit in a drawer, use a pantry or upper cabinet. I bought a few home designer CAD 3D programs and went at it. I built exactly what I imagined our home to be and more. I am self taught and very good using the programs. My bro suggested a local draftsman who could never get the roof like we wanted. He wasn't as good as I was! Truly. My design is smarter than what we have seen anywhere. Features in my home are usually found in $1M+ dollar properties. I know: I am a REALTOR®. I'm going to find out how much smarter this design is real soon because I am going to sell this home. So, we shall see what happens. We recently bought a waterfront lot in a small gated community here in NE Florida; and are going to build another 'retirement' home ... not quite as big as this one. I am going to draw up plans myself. We love the layout in this home, but it's two story. Going to *try* to keep it on one level... I really like the idea of having a couple of rooms 'upstairs'. DH said we'll have to put in an elevator if I did a second storey. We need to think of re-sell, too. ;) Last time, I found a local drafts-woman in Virginia, where we were living before we built in Florida. The draftswoman was terrific. She found out local Florida specs and incorporated to met building guidelines. Once in Florida, we hired an engineer to do 'the engineering' calcs, electrical, etc. There was very little tweaking or changes in our plans... and this is a complicated home with a cut-up roof. DH and I acted as GC because we had the money to build this home ourselves. There's over 6,000sf under roof and we built 4 blocks high, so it took a bit to build. We also did a lot of the grunt work while building. I don't know if we saved a whole lot of money, but we go it done. This time.... I *want* to hire someone to build... in theory. Yet, since I'm a control freak... we might end up doing it ourselves again. We'll just have to 'see' if we'll have the money to build -Vs- getting a CP loan. My brother's a builder and lives next door. He built a Donald Gardner plan about the same time we were building. Our homes compliment each others. A few years ago, someone built across the street from us because they like our homes; and built a similar style. We don't live in a neighborhood per se... but we've started something. Later on, three other similar styled homes have gone in on our road and all complimenting what we built: a quality home on about 1 1/2 acres. It looks terrific. Theirs look terrific. I just hate to sell this house... but we think we want waterfront property and lifestyle. (We got tired of hauling our boat to a ramp.) Another person built a 'Florida' style home and it just doesn't have the character that ours have... or the other new similar homes. I think people around here are wanting traditional, yet updated styles. I hate stucco and it's just everywhere in 'NE Florida' neighborhoods. Ours is a standout. Looking for a good draftsman in NE Florida if you know of someone. I will be extremely specific in my specs. Again, would love to see your house....See MoreHouse plans online/architect in California
Comments (2)California has very strict architect and engineering regulations. Where local law or ordinance requires drawings and calculations to be prepared by a licensed professional, they must be prepared by or under the direct supervision of a licensed architect or engineer. Thus, your architect will have to start from ground zero, even if you hand her/him Internet plans. Chances are the Internet plans may not conform to all applicable California codes and regulations (Energy conservation, for example), and certainly do not take your property into consideration. So an Internet plan will have to be modified to conform to these. Finally, the plan may not meet all of your family's objectives, and if so, modifications may be needed. So if I understand correctly, you will have to pay the Internet plan factory $4K, and then have all of the other modifications made which are necessary to satisfy your family and to obtain a building permit. I don't know the size and quality of your desired house, but it seems to me you're already at $10K (or more) using your Internet plan. Would it be cheaper and better to simply use an experienced architect? Have you talked to any to get a sense of their scope of service and fees? Good luck on your project....See MoreTo architect or not to architect?
Comments (13)Lavender, I understand. We went back and forth. But as I said there if the plan requires 15 changes to make it function start over or hire an architect. Initially when we looked nothing met our needs, every stock plan needed multiple changes. We were set on hiring an architect and did the interviews and search. However we stumbled across this plan and realized we wouldn't be making numerous changes. I can't really think of any we would make except a full bath in-between the rec room and tv room in the basement. All things a builder did in NY and plans are available. The stock plans show a potential half bath there. So once again our changes are minimal. Sure we will tweak the kitchen a bit (no seating at a penisula instead it will double as display or china hutch and a 36" induction range). We love the plans modification for creating a family room upstairs in-between the master and kids room. This would be a perfect spot for a library/reading/computer nook. We also now understand that the home calls for the advanced framing with insulation we wanted. Again it is in the stock plan. We will be upgrading doors windows or finishings but the envelope and room placement will stay the same. The only other thing I can think of is a fireplace in basement and built ins. A green building consultant in conjunction with landscape architect will ensure we get the house placement right as well as other greening features and help us decide trees to keep or transplant to provide natural sun shade and a beautiful lawn. So I thought the draftsman plus the landscape architect and gbc would get us to a finished house we will love for years to come. If someone had suggested major shortcomings or made us see that we would want to increase size of rooms or move walls then I would revert back to hiring the out of state architect. Please point out all the shortcomings. Perhaps I'll realize our folly and hire the architect....See MoreKristin S
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