Post hole filled with compost for deep soil conditioning
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Comments (5)While searching this topic, i found the following article. Sounds like my method in bags would be similar to the "white tunnel in the farm" Anaerobic Composting By Compost King 13 Comments Bokashi_Anaerobic CompostingAnaerobic composting or composting without the presence of oxygen has been practiced for centuries. Records indicate that the Chinese are the oldest known civilization to practice this form of composting to fertilize their rice paddies. In more technical terms, anaerobic composting is composting organic materials, using living anaerobic organisms such as bacteria in an environment that has no oxygen present. This is the same process you will find occurring in nature as peat bogs and marshes. Unless you happen to have access to a large field of water you are going to have to find another way to create your anaerobic compost pile. While most composting experts will talk about not letting your compost piles get too wet or they will rot, anaerobic composting requires approximately 70% moisture levels in order for it to work properly. The Standard Compost Pile You can turn your current compost pile into an anaerobic one quite simply and effectively by adding plenty of water. Yes I know we have spent hours telling you how important it is to maintain moderate to low moisture levels, but with this type of composting you need to remove the oxygen from your compost pile. The water will drive out the oxygen and keep it out if you keep the water level high enough. By covering the pile to help keep in the moisture, you will end up with a slimy mess, which indicates that it is working properly. You should however, be prepared for a very odoriferous compost pile. This is really more suitable to households with larger tracts of land where the aforementioned odoriferous pile can be placed away from the house or the neighbors. The Submerged Pile This method of creating anaerobic compost is very similar to that which is has been in use by the Chinese for centuries and involves keeping your compost under water. For this you will need a large tank, plastic pool or tank that is big enough to hold your compost and then be filled with water. As your compost pile decomposes the odors are trapped in the water. While slightly more involved than a standard anaerobic compost pile, your neighbors will certainly appreciate it. anaerobic composting in a fieldThe Big Bag Theory You have probably seen this method in use in the local farmers’ fields, this would be the long white bags that lay in the fields over the winter. This version is a little simpler and a lot smaller. You can use a large heavy duty plastic garbage bag. You first layer the bottom of the bag with soil or cured compost, then add your compost and add enough water to make everything moist. Seal the bag so that no air can get in and roll it to get things started and then leave it alone for 6-8 weeks. No Hole in My Bucket Off all the different forms of anaerobic composting, the bucket method is perhaps the easiest and least offensive. This is a long term project and will take up to a year to create the compost you are looking for. You simple cut the bottom from a five gallon bucket and plant it a few inches into the ground. You then fill it with your scraps and organic waste, place the lid on it and forget it for a year. Do not open until the year has passed or you will let in more oxygen and ruin the process. As you can see a fair amount of patience is required for this method. At the end of the year you will have perfectly usable humus. All of these forms of anaerobic composting work well, some will produce more compost than others, while at the same time creating a rather smelly situation....See MoreWhat would you use to fill 10' of shrunk soil level?
Comments (29)Hey Kimmsr, so, I completed the soil in a jar test, and I was really surprised. Where I thought I had a LOT of OM/compost, turns out there is barely any. I would say it appears to be 1% or less, in a very thin layer floating on the top of the water surface. The rest of the results are harder to tally precisely because the sand and the silt overlap a little at their respective edges, but I can see a general trend. Together, the sand and silt comprise about 70%-75% of the mix. If I had to assign amounts, I'd say it looks like: Clay, 25% Silt 25-30%-ish (depending on overlap with sand) Sand 45-50%-ish (depending on overlap with silt) OM, 1% or less I also did the worm test and was shocked, shocked to find very few worms in the top 12 inches of the soil. I don't know if it's been the freezing weather (last week) or the biblical rainstorms (earlier this week) but I certainly was surprised by the lack of earthworms. The drain test is a little difficult to do right now because we just had a lot of rain, but it appears to be draining faster than 2 hours. So if I'm interpreting these correctly, I am in dire need of more OM, right Kimmsr? I am wondering if the mix that I started (a purchased mix from a reliable local soil company) with was either too light on the OM, or perhaps the OM was not fully composted and the soil food web gobbled it all up? Either way, it sure seems like I need some compost. STAT! And I'm guessing that I WILL need to dig it in rather than just mulch the top. And finally, after reading the PDF you posted earlier, I guess I'm not completely clear on whether to use a fully composted compost---which will provide longer term structure but not much for the soil food web, or a partially composted compost---which will provide more food for the SFW in the short term. help much appreciated! -kmama PS. I guess the issue of whether I need Azomite in this mix is cleared up... there certainly seems to be a rather adequate mineral supply, right? What are your thoughts on Azomite?...See MoreComposting in very dry conditions
Comments (19)Coming from Nova Scotia, a fairly wet climate,though not near as wet as the west coast, I'm trying to understand this phenomenon of piles that need ongoing watering. I'm used to thinking that climate doesn't affect the processes going on in a pile much, for instance Tiffy in southern NS keeps her compost piles hot through long sub-zero winters. What matters is the way a pile is built and the materials used. Is it a question of batch composting vs. the other kind? Heavy rain could saturate a pile and make it stop working...But ambient dryness? I can't imagine it sucking the moisture out of a pile. Kitchen scraps, rotten produce etc. are around 80% water - could you go heavier on those? And keep the pile covered with a thick layer of browns? I do water a pile as I build it, a sprinkling with the watering can on every other layer, but that's it. I guess I balk at the thought of composting, which is a way of reclaiming a waste product, as something requiring natural resources - and energy and time - to make it work. But I've never lived in a very dry climate....See MoreCompost dog poop in a deep hole?
Comments (5)Here's how I compost all of the poop (I also use premium dog food) from my eleven dogs: About 5 feet away from my ornamental trees (to avoid hitting too many large tree roots), I dig a hole approximately 12 inches deep and 12 inches wide. That is big enough to hold all of the poop for approximately a week. I don't add anything else (have a separate compost pile for everything else). Once the hole is full, I cover it back over with the original soil so it resembles a large mound and dig a new hole about 2 feet away. As the poop breaks down, the mound will sink on its own without any additional work from you. The tree also appreciates the nutrients. Best of all, the worms and other composting helpers will follow the trail of poop from hole to hole around the tree. By the time you get all the way around (provided it's a good sized tree), the original hole site will be fully composted and ready for refilling. Just one word of caution: Make sure to do this around ornamental trees and bushes only. There are many who believe that composting dog poop around fruit trees can cause contamination of the fruit, even if your dogs are perfectly healthy. It's just not worth the risk either way. Happy composting! :)...See Moreglib
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