I ordered that one too but they aren't shipping it till March :( I cant wait to grow it though. I love the lavender/lilacs they are my fav. I got a Grande Dame from them a month ago and it is so big now I had to stick it in a 2 gallon. The little bands grow fast.

Ooooh Grande Dame is lovely! It's amazing how fast a healthy band can grow! I told Heirloom to ship in April, as the last frost date here is April 7th and the weather's been unpredictable these last two years. Let me know how it is when you receive it!

Just received my Poseidon band from Heirloom. It has roots coming out the bottom and the leaves are so green and healthy. Pretty good size for a band. I will stick this in a one gallon tomorrow :)

Awesome congrats!! Do you have any pictures?

Sorry it took me so long to respond. Life got busy and I actually forgot about Gardenweb.

I am getting it from Roses Unlimited!

I will get a pic tomorrow. I probably need to pot it up again and check on the roots anyways lol.

Sultry jasmine,

Do you have good luck with own roots in fl?

I'm growing Pierre de Ronsard (Eden rose) own root from heirloom. It's about 3 years old and has given me about 3 flowers (one per year ha ha). But I know she takes a while to get going. She's doing well, I can't complain (especially since she was in a pot for her first 2 years (albeit a big one).) She's now in the ground and has shot out two good, large basal canes so I'm happy.

She's the only rose I've grown from heirloom that has survived (cherry parfait pooped out after 2 years in a pot) and a few Austin's I got from them did the same, but I was a rose newb then so not their fault.

The only others I have had success with own root are Quitness, duchess de Brabant and Ivor's rose (and a few drifts). Just wondering if and what you've had luck with on their own roots.

I'm currently growing (recently planted) heritage (so far so good) tamora (slow but steady) and perdita (not so good, thinking of pulling her out an potting her up). I also have a cutting of queen of Sweden that seems to be doing better than the one I have on Dr. h.

Anyways, I ask because I really like heirloom (and chamblees) selections, but I'm weary about own roots here. I don't seem to have great luck with roses on dr Huey and roses on fortuniana are hard to come by and limited in variety (and expensive to ship too).

Here is my little baby Poseidon. Lots of new growth on it. I guess it likes the bunny berries it got in its potting soil lol. I checked the bottom and I am just seeing some roots barely coming through on this 1 gallon so I will probably pot it up to a 3 gal as soon as I get some time.

Wow it looks so nice! I can't wait to get mine ^_^

So FL Rose, I do not have any 'own roots' in the ground here yet. They are all in pots. I am not planning to put any own roots in the ground except for OGR types here that are nematode resistant. I have 5 own root Austins from Heirloom and one more coming in April. My other 17 Austins are grafted to Dr. Huey and are also in pots for now. I have Blue Girl and Double Delight on Dr. H, in pots for going on 6 years now and they do great. I have replenished their soil a few times and I top it off with composted bunny and chicken manure several times a year.

I have only bought one Fortuniana grafted rose so far and it is Pope John Paul ll. I got it for 18.99 from Gore's Nursery (Dinsmore area). I didn't see Fortuniana grafted roses there last year but this spring they got some in. They are in 3 gallon pots. I might go get some more because like you said, the Fort. grafted ones are expensive and I don't have to pay shipping this way lol.

I just got started collecting the own root OGR types of roses. I have several in pots and plan to get them into the ground as soon as they are a little bigger.

I am in NE FL and we don't have as bad of nematode problems as some parts of FL do but there are sandy areas on our property that do have the nematodes because I get damage on tomatoes and brugmansia roots in those areas. In the wooded areas we have very rich black soil and in the front area of our property we have some orange clay that doesn't drain worth a darn. Every time it rains, there is standing water out there and a zillion frogs going crazy.

One thing I have learned about growing stuff in pots in Fl and LA and places that get a lot of seasonal rain is to put a lot of perlite or other chunky material into the pots so they will drain very fast. Otherwise the roots can actually drown. In my larger pots I add some orchid mix (usually the small to medium sized orchid bark mix) that has some charcoal along with perlite mixed into the potting soil in the bottom 1/4 part of the pot. Seems to be working pretty well. Clay orchid balls would probably work as well. I might experiment with them later.

I ordered mine from Roses Unlimited as well. Can anyone comment on the shape or dimensions of Novalis? I had another plant die and I'm considering switching up where I intended to put it initially. I thought I heard that it grows somewhat narrow.

That is a really nice looking picture of a Poseidon own root. I would suggest that you pinch the top shoot now to encourage basal and side shoots to develop. I know this is painful, but by the end of the season you will end up with a well formed bushy plant and more blooms. In the nursery when we plant own root we pinch the young plants quite a few times to encourage branching and good shrub formation.
If you are in south Florida I agree that you may have better luck with the rose on fortuniana root stock as it will grow better in the sandy soils and will be more resistant to nematodes. James Mills sells a variety of roses on Fortuniana and I believe he also is growing Poseidon now. He has a mail order company and also sells his roses at different meetings of the American Rose Society.

I just got a large bud on mine. It did grow a tall shoot that has the bud on it. I am going to let that one open and pinch off anymore that come up. The reason is that I have got a few this year that have not been what they were supposed to be (not from this nursery) so I am letting all my first blooms open for identity purposes.

I am not in S. FL I am in NE FL. We have quite varied soils on our property. Clay up towards the front and beautiful black rich soil in the wooded areas. Around the house is sandy soil and if there are nematodes that's probably where they are. I am keeping this in a pot regardless because I am not planning to stay here. I want to get a larger property further south and further outside a city limit.

Hi Sultry Jasmine, my comments on Fortuniana root stock were in response to SoFL Rose z10. South Florida (Zone 10) is a challenging area to grow roses.

On your photos -if you let that on tall shoot bloom cut it down after to the height of the rest of the bush. I don't think you need to cut every bud off in the first year, but rather try and do soft pinches on new shoots so that it promotes many more shoots keeping the growth more even and not having a few very long canes. I love own root roses, but what happens with these band pots is that the consumer gets a very young plant and then has to do the work that a grower typically does. If the tall shoots are not pinched when the plant is young then often the consumer ends up with a very tall skinny rose bush. Own root cuttings (plugs) sent to the field to grow for a year before being harvested for sale are pinched many times in the first season creating a nicely formed own root rose.

The flower opened today :) It smells yummy, like faint rose with some type of berry undertones. It is a little more lavender than my phone camera picks up. My phone camera doesn't do reds and purples very well...makes them look more pink for some reason.

Oooooo so pretty! I took a picture of Midnight Blue in the morning one day rather than the afternoon/evening and the purple color came out much better. Perhaps you can try taking another picture in the morning?

Beautiful picture sultry jasmine..but it's interesting all of the Novalis here have no scent at all, and there are many examples around.

Rosecandy, those were taken in the morning lol. My phone camera has problems probably been dropped too many times. Its almost time for an upgrade so...lol. My regular camera has issues as well so I'm making due for awhile.

Nikansi. Interesting about the Novalis not having any scent there. It is pretty warm and humid here so maybe the scent is stronger? I have a really sensitive nose and can usually smell stuff others say they can't smell very well. DH can never smell anything unless its really strong lol. The scent was stronger in the morning when the bloom first opened. You have to put your nose up to the flower though.

Haha, I guess you already know the trick ;). The photo, despite the camera's issues, is beautiful. It's also 100x better than my phone can take! I can't wait for my bush to bloom!