I have also made the same observations with other forums as well. Much of it seems to be hard economic times for many -- some of whom have given up their collections or just barely tend to them on a day to day basis. I know a few who have had to shut down their greenhouses because of the heating bills. Anyone paying attention has also sadly seen numerous orchid dealers go out of business over the past few years as well. The OSF seems to be the most awake, but it is still fairly quiet compared to the way it usually had been. I hope all will perk up come the spring.

Yes, for me its been 11 years, where has time gone to? Yes Trudi we still look good, LOL, my photo on f/b was taken last year with hubby, son, daughter in law, and dl's mom and her boyfriend while we were on a cruise. I went blonde for a year (and yes its true blondes do have more fun, LOL) we had a great time on that cruise too!! I love watching the newbies that come here yearly, and can't believe that WS works, and once they realize how simple it is, and then they stay around and help the others, like all of us did.

Thanks everyone! Jasmine is really easy here, both star and pink. Pink jasmine is about ready to bloom. Star jasmine blooms more in May and June. The star would be great going up on the fence side because it is shadier there. I'll have to use that idea!

If this is not until August or later, I would love to do a trade for a few more spiders! I have possibly 10 plus of them and would love to have more! Maybe we can just do a trade then or something. If all goes will Friday, I will for sure want to! That is if I have some you don't! LOL! Maybe! Melinda