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An old fashioned Christmas

16 years ago

I'm willing to bet that few if any of us actually lived through the kind of old fashioned Christmas that provokes nostalgia. Media has always prompted our ideas of how Christmas is to be enjoyed, from Charles Dickens's A Christmas Carol to movies to television to songs on the radio. Since this is a readers' forum I think it might be fun to share books that inspired our ideas of just how Christmas ought to be celebrated.

I'll start. Throughout my childhood I read many books that contributed to my ideal of the holiday, from picture books to early chapter books to novels. However the one that built my visual picture was a picture book, one of Tasha Tudor's earlier Christmas books, possibly Snow Before Christmas, possibly Becky's Christmas. As an adult I remember that the family in the story did an amazing amount of work to get ready for the holidays. As a child I wondered why my own mother didn't do all those things! Now of course I think she was quite sensible.

Two other books that have fed my vision of Christmas are the wordless book Peter Spier's Christmas and Leon Garfield's Fair's Fair. Unfortunately all of these excellent books are now out of print, but they can be found as used books or library discards.

Rosefolly, feeling a little jingle bell-ish as the fall sets in here in California

Comments (14)

  • 16 years ago

    Christmas books!
    I fondly remember a Golden Book of The Night Before Christmas. But I really remember scenes about Christmas that were in other books. Little Women, a couple of the Little House books by Laura Ingalls Wilder, Anne of Green Gables, All Creatures Great and Small, and several Ngaio Marsh mysteries were set around Christmas.
    As far as living through a Christmas of the nostalgia-producing ilk, I go back to the late 1950s. Shiny metal trees (at someone else's house, my mother was an evergreen purist), the Christmas lights with the big bulbs, the childless neighbors who would dress up like Santa and Mrs. Claus and go from house to house on Christmas Eve ringing sleigh bells and delivering gifts (left on the front porch by our parents while we were putting on our pajamas.)

  • 16 years ago

    CeCe - We think along the same lines -- Little Women and the Little House books were the first that came to mind for me. Since I grew up in So. California, I never had a white Christmas. In fact, we spent many Christmas days playing outside in short sleeves. So the Christmases with snow and sleigh bells always seemed romantic to me.

    My sister's family had a tradition of reading A Child's Christmas In Wales every year, which seemed like fun.

    My favorite Christmas memories include carols on the stereo, stacks of Christmas cookies, wrapped gifts tumbling out from under the tree (a family of six kids!), and hours of board games. Heavenly.

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    My childhood Christmases in the 50ies were very traditional, much like in Astrid Lindgren's books. The preparations began on the 9th of December, St. Anne's Day. This was traditionally the day for testing the Christmas beer that should be ready that day. Later it became the day for soaking the lutefisk in time for Christmas. I remember the dried fish that looked like firewood before it was cured and soaked for 3 or 4 weeks. My mother would start baking not long after for Lucia Day on the 13th, saffron coffee bread, fruit cake and seven kinds of cookies, the prescribed number. She would make more bread closer to Christmas. My father would help making the ginger cookies that would take half the night. They used to finish around 2 o'clock and my father always made large cookies of his own design with the last of the dough for my brothers and me.

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    My mother would be exhausted on Christmas Eve, the big day here (I forgot to mention the thorough cleaning of the house with clean curtains in all windows and the decorations) and I promised myself that I would never teach my own children to expect so much because my mother thought that we kids drove her to all these preparations. I don't think we did, children usually don't care so much about food.

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    I grew up in the 1950's and am from a family of ten children. My father worked afternoon shift at the large downtown post office in Seattle, Washington, which, during the Christmas season, required its employees to work overtime. This meant that Mom did all the shopping, cooking and decorating alone - not too unusual for the 1950's. What was unusual was that our family didn't own a car. That meant walking to a corner gas station or Christmas tree lot somehwere in our neighborhood, picking out a tree and dragging it several blocks to our house. Then Mom had to wrestle it in the door and try to set it in the Christmas tree stand so that it was fairly upright. (I can hardly imagine doing this alone, much less with several children underfoot!)
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  • 16 years ago

    My memories of Christmases past are of during WW2, when our household was my mother and her parents. They did wonders "keeping Christmas" for my sister and me. Pre-war decorations were carefully preserved. Nanny used a hairpin to make a bauble reusable when the original hanger broke! The Xmas cake and pudding, which were very short of dried fruit were darkened by having a bottle of Camp coffee essence added to the mixture.
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  • 16 years ago

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  • 16 years ago

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    As Vee said, it wouldn't seem like much compared to present-day excess, but my memories are sweet and happy.

  • 16 years ago

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    My mother always made a roast beef for Christmas. Always well-done, as my mother did not like pink meat. My husband's family did turkey. We usually spend Christmas Day with them, so I became one of the turkey-twice-in-a-month cookers. A few years ago my s-i-l's and I rebelled. We seemed to no sooner clean up Thanksgiving dinner than we were expected to do it all over again for Christmas. Now Christmas is a spiral ham with a couple favorite casserole sides-pineapple bread pudding, some sort of cheesy potatoes, and the favorite green bean casserole. Christmas cookies for dessert. They can all be done before-hand, and the ham is so much easier than a turkey. We eat, do gifts, take a walk, then pull out the leftovers for meal #2. So much more restful for the three of us who have spent the previous weeks making ourselves crazy shopping, baking, etc. If the guys want turkey, they are more than welcome to cook one.

  • 16 years ago

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  • 16 years ago

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    Children get more presents now but the traditional dishes are now served only in restaurants. People are too health conscious, so many young people are vegetarians or even vegans, and the rest think of their waistlines and their hearts. 50 years ago every Swede went to the early service, 6 or 7 o'clock on Christmas Day, believer and non-believer alike. Now people go to the Midnight mass if they go to church at all. Few do.

  • 16 years ago

    Two books I most associate with the Xmases of my youth are "Little Women" and a sad, 19th century tome: "The Bird's Christmas Carol." In the latter, Carol is a sick little girl, daughter of the Bird family. It is relieved only by the portrayal of the Ruggles', an Irish family next door, who are struggling to survive. It is now out of print. I have my own antiquarian copy and cannot read it withoug weeping.

    I grew up in the suburbs of the "old" Atlanta, before all the changes. It was a friendly neighborhood, and we all knew each other. We used to walk the old sidewalks going from door to door for Xmas cheer, when neighbors would have "open house." At our own open house, my father made home-made egg nog --- incredibly strong, with sherry. I think a few were reeling, afterward....

    Christmas eve feast were a few relatives and friends, with a large ham served. (never, ever turkey!). The ham was studded with cloves. Alongside it was the traditional southern dish of sweet potato pudding with orange flavor and marshmallows. Dessert was always the traditional southern fruitcake, made with Bourbon. Children would go door to door singing the old Xmas carols in the evening.

    We always had a live fir tree in the bay window of our living room, decorated with very old glass balls and that dreadful silver tinsel draped over its branches. There was always a fire in our fireplace and it was the one night of the year that our dog was permitted to come into the house to lie in front of the fire.

    On Xmas eve night, a plate of cookies was left out for Santa. I had been told to write a letter to Santa to state what I wanted. ( really, very simple gifts, by today's standards -- a bike, a doll, a book). I got little sleep that night, as I recall listening for the hooves of 8 reindeer on our slate roof. I would arise early and sneak downstairs to peek at the few gifts under the tree. Later on, the neighborhood kids would all congregate outside on the sidewalks to compare gifts. One of my most memorable gifts was a cowgirl outfit, a la Dale Evans, with boots, a lariat, a hat, etc. One of the boys got a Roy Rogers outfit, so we were quite the pair! We never went to church on Xmas, although there were Xmas concerts we attended, with choirs. Later in his life, my father took to listening to Handel's "Messiah."

  • 16 years ago

    My ideas of the IDEAL Christmas were probably best formed by reading the life of Tasha Tudor. She was a real back to basics soul and for some reason her simple approach really appealed to me. Home baked bread and cookies, fresh pine for the mantle,hand crafted pinecone wreaths, candles everywhere.....*sigh*

    I grew up in the 50's and things were simpler then. There were no massive children's toy malls. My idea of what I might ask for from Santa usually came from a small catalog of toys from Sears. I remember one year I fell in love with a doll trunk which opened up and had small hangers, a drawer and room for dolly clothes and Dolly herself! I wanted that so much and carried that ad with me for a long time. I never did get it, must be I didn't show the ad to my Dad!! LOL.

    Today I have a handmade balsam pillow in my living room which I crafted from balsam I picked in the Adirondacks. When I bury my face into it the fragrance of balsam immediately takes me back to when I was 6 years old, laying on my stomach under the lower boughs of our Christmas tree playing with the manger set.
    That fragrance is more evocative than anything else I know.
    Not only do I get the image but the emotions are there as well: happy, excited, magical moments.

  • 16 years ago

    VEER........don't feel sorry to feel you might be "scrooge-ish".
    Probably , if truth be told, there are many whose expectations always exceed the reality...especially when there is some discord going on. I agree, children do pick up on these energies spoken or unspoken and they color memories.
    I have tried so hard to create a memorable holiday tradition for my two. One treasures the effort, the other eschews it.
    I have always had to do it myself and deal peripherally with a partner who goes into holiday/winter doldrums around Oct. 31 and doesn't emerge until May.
    It makes doing holidays very solitary and burdensome in a way. I feel as though it is all on me. And it is.
    My solution , through these many years, has been to do it from my own spiritual center, keeping in mind the joy that I feel in the doing.
    I have learned that I cannot be all things to all people...but I can be my best for myself!
    And so my holiday preparations are done with this thought:

    Take Joy!

  • 16 years ago

    Well said, Yoyobon.