A large basal bulb of walking onion (allium cepa proliferum) planted in fall around here will develop two or three strong shoots by spring. Left undivided, these will get to medium size, make a lot of topset bulbils and make medium size basal bulbs again by the next fall. A better way to manage them is to thin the shoots down to one by using them for green onions in the spring. Then you'll get a bigger main shoot, bigger topsets and a bigger basal bulb which can be used like a shallot in late summer and can be stored for a few months. Large topsets can be planted out in late summer to make small scallions by late fall or early spring. Small topsets in mid-summer can be pickled or used for cooking. I don't much experience with shallots, maybe someone else here is expert. As far as leeks, did you mean that you set out seedlings? I have never heard of 'sets' for leeks.

@Adelaide (Z8b Canada) ..Adelaide... DA shrub roses of 4.5 feet or above, generally have a dual personality... some might use more colourful terms to describe it... in that they can be grown as a shrub, or as a climber.. that choice is with the gardener.. although the rose will often tell you in no uncertain terms, which way they intend to go, like it or lump it... I've grown a number of them as short climbers very easily indeed.. DA's heights are just a guide, transcribed direct from the UK inventory and can often seem ridiculous when you've had the rose a few years.... the only ones I know that perform true for us, are those marked 3.5 feet or lower.. and there aren't many of those.. Unlike the ever popular Gertrude Jekyll... Royal Jubilee has fewer thorns, better foliage and repeats much better.. I am in the driest [if that's the right term] part of England but we get rain, and humidity is nearly always high.. I get my share of black spot such as it is here.. you may have more strains to deal with where you are though... so it's perhaps not wise to take my experience and relate it to yours but it's all trial and error isn't it?... I really want that rose again, I had to remove it due to building work on my property.. I want to grow it again one day, as big as it could get... let the thing rip, you know?... best of luck...

Persian shallots are Allium stipitatum. If you Google under that name you will find various vendors, including most of the big bulb houses. They have an ornamental garden presence as well :-) And I'd go with bulbs rather than seeds....takes 4 years from seed to a productive plant.

I am going to order some shallot bulbs. Is there a specific variety that tastes great and grows well for you? Or a company that you like to deal with?