went to lowes and showed the gardener there the photos. she told us they were getting too much water and thats why they were getting fungus at the bottom. moved the plants to another bed with lesser water through the day and they seem to be fine. now, coming back to my vegetable bed, how do i get it to drain better. while making it i put in a layer of industrial fabric, 1-2 inches of organic peat humus and then 2-3 inches of a mix of top soil and organic peat humus. the gardener said that the peat humus at the bottom must be retaining too much water

thx much for that info.When i'm down there in a few wks for my pick up, if theirs looks great, for some reason [zone?] i'll consider it, but sounds pretty bad. Our gardens are so jam packed that 'looks weedy' is the defining thing that would keep me from growing a plant. These pea family plants must be pretty easy to hybridize; there are alot of lespedeza cultivars out there. I finally found a tag for one of mine- Pink Fountain. Very late (like maybe Oct) while the un- i.d.'ed one i have has been steady blooming awhile now, in 90% shade too! I hope i can focus enough for a hands- on lesson from the Br Arrow guys in HOW to tell the diff between lespedeza and indigofera foliage.

are you absolutely sure on this ID ... there are a couple holiday type conifers.. which are sold as basically throw away ... .. plants after the holidays ...usually sold in 4 inch pots ... [google of the latin.. tells me this is one of them] if it was outdoors when you got it ... it is probably dormant ... and could probably be planted in mother earth ... subject to the horrible OH clay down in columbus ... i would NEVER try to winter over a conifer/tree.,... in a 4 inch pot ... i would.. at a min ... repot it.. with NO root disturbance.. to a one gal... with proper media ... i might even just sink pot and all in the larger pot ... its all about maintaining the roots dormant... on days temps spike.. as tiny pots.. warm fast ... trees ... of which conifers are ... like a sip of water ... and then near total drainage .... even in august.. in MI ... i might water mine once a month or so .... but then.. i dont have then in 4 inch pots ... let it near dry .... in between waterings ... and do fully understand ... a dormant tree does not need all that much water .... its also problematic.. that we dont know the media already in the pot ... media for production.. in a small pot.. can be wildly divergent from what you might need ... it might hold too much water on purpose.. and that purpose is NOT yours ... you are dreaming that your sunporch might only be a few degrees warmer ... i smoke in my attached garage ... and it can be 15 to 30 degrees warmer than outside.. on sunny days... in mid winter ..... and that wont be good ... you are spot on on the wind issue .... reducing that is good ... ken ps: dannaher... i meant to enable you ... i did not expect you to go asking them.. how to take care of a plant you bought elsewhere ... maybe the website will have info .... Here is a link that might be useful: galena.. westerville.. whatever ...

or they are the de groots spire version of the plant .. as to the thinness of the top foot or so ... thats how they grow to some extent ... first upwards... and then in following years.. getting chubbier ... where are you.. big city name.. z5 is about half the US... narrow it down for us ... could be deer.. but boy they are rather thoughtful on there pruning ... lol ... 8 to 10 inches in two years after transplant seems a lot for emerald greens.. but the spire mentioned above might do that ... personally.. i dont believe that conifers.. which are trees.. ever need fert .. they are trees not children ... they dont need to be fed ....if your soil is out of whack.. maybe a soil amendment but these dont show anything like that.. imo.. spend your fert money somewhere else.. in the future ... and i would never use nitro rich fert on anything but the lawn .. which actually needs a lot of nitro ... a little of this or that.. rarely hurts anything.. but i doubt the trees need it ... i dont really see any reason to pull them out and try again ... but if that is your wish.. go for it.. i dont live there.. but if you do replant.. you might want to plant a couple feet further away from the house ... after two seasons.. trees should be free range.. they should not need constant watering .. i would ween them off it this year.. but for severe drought in the heat of summer.. and by fall i would reclaim the irrigation to use somewhere else.. unless of course... you decide to replant ... here is how i look to future potential. based on the name you provided.. note they will be scratching on the house in the future .. and also note.. i used the latin name.. for best info : https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffcm&q=Thuja+occidentalis+%27Smaragd%27&iax=images&ia=images ken