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21 years ago

Aux dÃ©rnieres journÃ©es des plantes de St Jean de Beauregard prÃ¨s de Paris se trouvait un pÃ©pinieriste spÃ©cialisÃ© dans les rosiers pour terrains calcaires.IntÃ©rÃ©ssÃ© (et concernÃ©)je me suis emprÃ©ssÃ© de lui demander quels porte-greffes il utilisait.A ma grande surprise il m'a rÃ©pondu Rosa Laxa.Me souvenant de la rÃ©ponse que Pete Flowers m'avait donnÃ© sur les porte-greffes pour terrains drainants et calcaires sur ce forum je lui ai alors demandÃ© pourquoi il n'utilisait pas Rosa Canina ou Rubiginosa.Pour le premier je me suis vu rÃ©pondre qu'il n'Ã©tait pas mieux adaptÃ© que Laxa et que le second avait...trop d'Ã©pines!ET qu'en tous les cas on n'utilisait pas Laxa en Belgique parce qu'il y faisait trop froid! (pourtant les rosiers chez Austin et Beales en Angleterre sont bien grÃ©ffÃ©s sur Laxa)

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dani1307
21 years ago
voilÃ peut-Ãªtre la raison de la non reprise de deux Austin Ã racines nues que j'ai plantÃ© au dÃ©but du printemps. Mon terrain est argilo calcaire.
Effectivement les rosiers austin qui ont bien pris sont sous les pins ou la terre est plus acide.danielle
Pete_Flowers
20 years ago
C'est dommage!

Ce n'est malheureusement pas la premiÃ¨re fois qu'il faut constater que certains pÃ©piniÃ©ristes racontent....n'imp....
euh, ce qu'ils imaginent.
En rÃ©alitÃ©, R. Laxa est prÃ©cisÃ©ment un PG pour rÃ©gions continentales froides. Le premier Ã l'utiliser fut le Dr Froebel....dans la rÃ©gion de ZÃ¼rich! il confÃ¨re une rusticitÃ© supÃ©rieure, toutes choses Ã©gales par ailleurs, aux rosiers qu'il porte, pour une raison trÃ¨s simple: il "coupe le jus" trÃ¨s tÃ´t en saison! dÃ¨s lors, il n'y a pas de jeunes pousses tardives Ã congeler.
Par contre,en Belgique et en France ocÃ©anique, oÃ¹ les dÃ©buts de saison sont parfois -qui a dit: souvent?- quelques peu "pourris", mais les mois d'AoÃ»t et de Septembre souvent "convenables", ce PG ne convient pas!
C'est mÃªme la vÃ©ritable raison de l'Ã©chec des roses "anglaises" de D. Austin en Belgique, qui Ã©taient exportÃ©es directement d'Angleterre en conteneur.
Le R.Rubiginosa "trop Ã©pineux"? C'est un aveu : il est embÃªtant Ã greffer....mais c'est un inconvÃ©nient pour le producteur, pas pour le client (supposÃ© roi).
Pour ma part, j'ai rayÃ© de ma liste de fournisseurs un pÃ©piniÃ©riste belge qui importe tout sur Laxa. Avant d'acheter, je me renseigne sur les PG. Si la/les rÃ©ponses me laissent dubitatif, je n'achÃ¨te pas. Avec l'Internet j'ai un grand choix de fournisseurs...
Bien amicalement,
Pierre Lauwers.
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