Just take a look at this thread and comment there if you want. Thanks. Not very magnificent

There are definitely seedlings LOL. It's not going send a stolon 150' across the garden, especially a couple years after it was cut down! In fact I spotted a seedling yesterday and stopped myself from zapping it with glyphosate. I thought, 'heck, that gardenweb thread reminded me of how much I miss that plant'. I might leave it! The foliage does smell weird but only if you crush or rub it. It's not like Zanthoxylum simulans where on a hot day you can literally small the whole plant, and at some distance too. Toona 'Flamingo' is the same, but it seems more "smellable" on still humid nights. Like a strange mix beef and onion soup and burning rubber! 😱 FWIW pretty much all my camellias self seed now. Not to humble brag but I have high quality loamy soil so that probably helps these East Asian plants feel at home.

What had me so confused it that the leaves of Sherwood Blue Woodland Phlox change shape and texture. They went from the low growing thick leaves to thin and hairy leaves...total change in appearance. I found this info below to confirm what was confusing me on this ID. It may be of interest to other gardeners: "Yes, the leaves of 'Sherwood Blue' Woodland Phlox (Phlox divaricata) change in both appearance and, to some extent, texture throughout the growing season, primarily due to the plant's production of two different types of shoots. Later in the season, the plant leaves behind a lower-growing, carpet-like mat of infertile (non-flowering) shoots. The leaves on these shoots are generally wider, have more rounded tips, and are less hairy than the initial spring leaves." - source AI google question

Hi David 👋 Thank you for the id. I have been reading a lot and I guessed that my first photo was a pubicalyx, I'm happy for the confirmation. Could the second one be cummingiana? I have picked up a few more, photos below. Krimson queen? Krimson princess? I could use an id for this last one. I've found similar photos that are labeled finlaysonii and clemensiorum, but I'm not sure which (if either) precisely match mine. Any thoughts? Thank you again, it's a pleasure 'meeting' you 🤗