Advice on Mrs BR Cant

20 years ago

I haven't yet grown any of the tea roses, but would like to have a go with Mrs BR Cant. Can anyone tell me how she performs. Ideally I'd like something that is rarely without a bloom if possible, and it would be a bonus if I could cut flowers for inside. If there are any other tea roses that might perform better please let me know. I'm open to suggestion. TIA

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Vivienne

20 years ago

Mrs BR Cant is a wonderful rose but she doesn't repeat as fast as some of the other Tea Roses. I think mainly because her flowers are so big. It takes her a little more effort to produce them. She is very good as a cut flower but you need to remember that Tea Roses won't last as long in a vase as Hybrid Teas. However you will get tonnes more flowers from Tea Roses throughout the year than you will get from a Hybrid Tea. They are also very resistant to pests and diseases ( I don't spray my roses). If you have the space look at trying: Duchesse de Brabant, Mons. Tillier, Marie van Houtte, Peace 1902, General Gallieni, General Shablikine, Safrano, Baronne Hentriette de Snoy, Triomphe de Luxembourg, Adam, Lady Hillingdon, Niphetos, Jean Ducher, Anna Olivier, Maman Cochet, Mme Berkeley, Souvenir D'un Ami & Mmme Lombard. My favorite Tea Rose of all is Mme Antoine Mari. I love her color and she repeat flowers very quickly. Good luck with your first Tea Rose.
Vivienne

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yvonne_a
20 years ago
They're all wonderful Sarah and most with the bonus of flowering through our mild winters. Larry (from N.S.W.) is the one who's had great success with Mrs. BR Cant, he has a HUGE bush of her. I have a young plant and she is performing well so far. Are you on acreage or city block? If you have space have a go at the hybrid musks too.

Von.
plaur
20 years ago
Mrs B.R.Cant is one of my best performing bushes.Plenty of basals and well branched,numerous flushes at short intervals,sometimes continuous.She is 3 yrs old and 1.5x1+ metres.I wasn't very thrilled with her blooms in her first year,spring was very unsettled and they were a faded mauve colour,not much substance but she has performed brilliantly since then with lovely silverpink bloomsI don't detect any fragrance,maybe peppery,but I don't have a good nose for smelling.
Duchesse de Brabant and Mme de Tartas,both pinks,are also good perfomers and Crepuscule,cream and creamy apricot,you can keep it to bush size,all are beautiful.Not sure about vase life,maybe a few days,someone might correct me on this.
Pam.
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I'll agree with above posters that it seems to like hot, humid weather. Here in the steam bath we call Florida, it grows to monstrous proportions, faster than any other Tea we grow. It may sulk for a bit when brand new, but once it starts, look out. For us, it seldom balls, even when the notorious ballers ('Marechal Niel', 'Etiole de Lyon', etc.) are completely ruined. Our plants are out in a very open area, so they get free air movement and all-day sun; both likely help in preventing balling. We are growing it as a great dome of roses, in a circular, 24-foot diameter bed. Eight plants -- one in the center and 7 in a circle around it, allowed to grow together to make a single, gigantic mass. It's in its 3rd year now, and is nearly the way I want it. I'll plan to post pics soon.
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I have found with Mrs BR Cant that she will throw out those canes. But they soon become weighed down with blooms and laterals and don't really climb as much as stretch out. I suppose if you put a support near her and supported those canes they would stay more upright, but I don't know if they would 'climb'. I have noticed the same with Madame Lambard and Monsieur Tillier. I have them near small cherry trees and they are in the trees. Also, while your Mrs BR Cant is 3 years old. That is still young for a tea. I think that tall cane is what she could grow to in total if left to her own devices. But I have also found that the very long canes can split at the base if they get very heavy.
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I think she’ll still be tall in your climate. Hopefully someone closer to you (maybe Claire is?) will chime in. I think, since she’s a Tea, it may depend on how much cold you get there. Some frost might keep her lower. You CAN prune her, but I’ve read that she’s in that camp of a little sulky if you prune her too hard. I haven’t pruned her yet. :-)
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Snodge
20 years ago
I'm trying Mrs BR Cant new this season. Everyone I've spoken to who has her reckons she's great too.

Monsieur Tillier can't be beaten for performance. I've also been extremely happy with Madame Berkeley. These two thrive willout pampering. They will both flower away like mad without pruning, but also respond well to pruning if that's your preference. My other teas are still a bit young yet.

In my experience Maman Cochet is a bit prone to balling (mines gone back to a pot for extra protection from dew etc. Catherine Mermet has lovely flowers, a narrow habit, but isn't as vigorous as the ones discussed above....at least she hasn't been at my place :o)
Brissy
20 years ago
I love my Mrs BR Cant - she is a lovely roses - cupped and a lovely color. It does seem to ball in rain - but seeing as Brisbane has the "what rain" weather at the moment I am not having that problem.

I agree she is a big bush so give her lots of room.

Good luck with her,

Cheers,

Brissy
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15 years ago
What a pity that the British cannot get one of these fine roses. After all we gave "her" to the world!
avryll Sixtus
6 years ago
I am just growing Mrs. B.R. Cant in a large tub for a year or so. Full name is Mrs. Benjamin Revett Cant. She is available in England through Cant's Roses in Colchester. I got mine from Tasman Bay Roses here in NZ and gave one away as a gift. My children descent from Olive Cant, and is in the same family line as Benjamin Cant 1828 who produced this lovely rose. Each generation of the Cants produced several rose growers and developers going back to oh 1723. Quality rose specialists will have this rose, otherwise get an existing owner to donate a few stems to a rose grower who can use the buds to grow more shrubs. I did this with Barossa Dream which is another beautiful but more modern rose and oh so prickly.

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