Mary-anne, definately a David Austin I reckon, probably a warm climate version of Pat Austin; the picture of it in my Botanica's 'Pocket Roses' suggests it looks a bit of a washed out sort of pink, but definately resembling yours. I've got a similar D. A. that I planted this last winter and has had one flower on, I didn't take a picture but, to tell you the truth, I wasn't impressed - bought it at Big W in June. Definately an 'English' rose but sort of a pale creamy yellow, I'll watch it over this summer season. I also have another D.A. though (forget its name) it's in flower now and it's gorgeous; will take a picture of that too and post it, it is a lovely reddy pink, fairly disease resistant, and, though not a big strong rose, seems ok in our climate.
Trust all is well.
B

Thanks Bill.. Oh yes I agree with you its a DA alright and so beautiful, what a shame it's colour looks so washed out.
I planted this one where it only gets a small amount of morning sun hoping to avoid all of that so I am a little disappointed.

I will love to see your pics .... Mary-Anne

Hiya Mistymorn (Mary-anne), haven't taken the pic yet (of the D.A. pinky-red), but I've a few flowers on it so will do that tomorrow, as well as take some of some others; you know what I've had wonderful success with? 'Seduction' (speaking to a female(s) I have to be careful how I use that name, but it is the 'name of the rose' so to speak - a Meiland rose, and Meilands are the best I reckon). Anyway, been just too busy getting spring-time annuals in to take pictures. Also, by the way, I have (would you believe) a clematis about to flower amongst the blooms of my Dublin Bay! I know, clematis arn't/isn't suppose to grow here but this past winter I thought 'bugger-it' I'll give a few a go, and, believe it or not, they are thriving. So far!
b.
PS. By the way, isn't there anything we can about these damn interupting advertisements? I guess not.

Would you believe Seduction is my best preforming rose.

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I tried a Clematis last year but it carked it.. You must have a green thumb Bill.
What type of Clematis was it ? Do you still have the label.

Hey, Mary-anne, 'Seduction'! Arr, Love (excuse my familiarity, this rose and it's name is just so appropriately named, I think), Only the beauty of a rose can be so descriptive of what is so wonderful. That's why, I guess, a rose is so special. Well, you know what I mean - the flower is elegant; the scent is exquisite; and it (they) flower so freely! Also attached, my D. A. It's called 'Sophia's Rose', another damn gorgeous thing. My clematis' I'm trying for the first time this year (except for one) are Fair Rosamund, Miss Falconer, P.B.Traux, Polish Spirit, Venosa Violacea and the Aussie native, Glycinoides. Venosa Violacea is the one amongst the blooms of Rosa Dublin Bay. I noticed this morning its first flower is opening, a deep purple; purple amidst that gorgeous velvety red! I'll try and get a picture tomorrow. By the way, 'Seduction' is/are the background blooms to Sophia's Rose. The only clematis that is struggling a bit is P.B.Traux. It has had 2 flowers, I've posted them in the 'Clematis' page (I think), and Miss Falconer and Fair Rosamund have also flowered.

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Oh I agree Bill... Seduction is so well named That Sophia's Rose is another beautiful one, I have not got that one actually I don't have that many roses probably close to forty and a lot of those are double ups, two climbers on the arches and fences kind of thing I would love more as we have the room here but not the water, thankfully the last thirteen months we have had the best rain here in Brisbane for eight years, so that has given these gorgeous plants the pep pill they have needed.

I had a look at some pics of Fair Rosamund nice pale one, Miss Falconer light blue,Polish Spirit,and Venosa Violacea both purple and P.B.Truax purple on one site blue on another ? all very lovely when I lived in Melbourne I grew one of those hybrids mauve ones with the dark red a beautiful flower, but after loosing one climber here I wont bother again..

Seeing we don't have a Clematis page here I will go look on the USA one to see the pics.

Mary-Anne

Bill I cannot find you clematis post over there with pics..
I did find a couple of your posts though is it possible they are further back than page 18 around May 08...

Found one where the image had been removed but that I think could have been something else..

hiya, Misty-M. I just took a look at that clematis page and found I still have Fair-Rosamund on page 3, 13th message down, gees the pages fill fast. I thought I posted another one but when I checked my pictures in 'photo-bucket', from where I place my pictures, I haven't another clematis picture, so I guess I didn't. I mentioned too, yesterday, that another was opening, venosa violacea. I checked it today, it's growing among my Dublin Bay climbing rose, and growing 3 to 5 cms a day! but while the flower is, well, seems to me to be a fluke of a perfect match with the powerful colour of that rose, it isn't as big (about half the size, hopefully that means the plant will prove hardier). It's best colour description is purple, georgeous with the velvety red of the Dublin Bay rose. But, well, it's an arch, and I've only one clem. in there and I need another as I've two D.B. roses, one each side of the arch, and would you believe, they both flower at different times! I've another of that clem in another spot so I'll have to take cuttings of, or transplant the other next winter. It's flower, 5 petals, should be ready for a picture take tomorrow. What did you think of the David Austin in the photo? I dead-headed this morning and noticed the D.A's. I have seem to suffer less from blackspot that the seductions, which I have eight of! Anyway, I sprayed all this afternoon.
B

G'Day Bill Yes I found it this time, no excuse except old age.. And what a great pic and a gorgeous flower I wish I could grow them here but I cant so its no good whinging about it. All your DA's look good to me which one are you referring too. What a shame you DB's don't flower at the same time that's annoying on a arch my two Crepuscules on a arch both flower at the same time though one is more prolific than the other..

My latest two Icebergs on a arch new bare-rooted ones this Winter, one has already been flowering for a few days with lots of buds on it the other side has no buds on it at all, hopefully they will flower together next time. You have been busy with your spraying I have not done a thing today in the garden as I am still getting over yesterday..

Hiya Mary-an{{gwi:243001}}ne. You know I gotta find a way to reduce the size of the pics I'm posting here, they use up a lot of my alotted upload/download allocation, I'm with Bigpond and my contract is for 400 megabites, I think, or gigabites, whatever, and I've now used half of my quota this billing month. Attached is the C. venusa violacea just now flowering. I don't know how I'm going to go with the clems, I only planted them this winter, 18th June I put in 6 I bought mail order from Melbourne, thought I'd give them a go. Bit warm here, I suspect, but well, ya gotta try. All are doing well so far, have to see how they survive summer though. On roses, I think you've more than I, I've 8 seduction 3 David Austins, a thornless yellow I bought in June to try; a lovely buttercup yellow, not unlike Friesa, which I tried once but found too warm here for it. I've also Frau Dagmar Halstup and Rugosa Scabiosa, both heritage roses and exist blackspot free. Frau Dagmar is a gorgeous silver pink single, will take a pic for you when it'd next out. I had crepuscule but found it too hot here for it and also too prone to blackspot. Climbing iceberg I had but arrr, that became a bit of a mess. I do have on a lattice frame Altissimo, a very lovely single velvety red, it's a parent of Dublin Bay. and also with that I have climbing Peace. Gorgeouse big flower is that and not unlike crepiscule You know we ought to get a garden group going, chat by email and not through the Garden Web, but risky posting email addresses here because of the risk of spam, what do you think, have any ideas? Just had a look at the picture, seems better a bit smaller. As you can see a couple of more buds on it and there's a few buds on the D.Bay rose so maybe will get a mix. The clemati is growing like crasy, an inch or so a day, I'm feeding it well and keeping the water up so I hope it'll get right up the arch.

You have lots of interesting roses there, I have a lot of mini ones that I should not really count..

Smaller is better Bill that's not much Internet you have got how do you manage. I am on a art site also and some of there submissions are huge up to 6MB I can use the amount you get in three days I am not with one of the big guns either.

I love that Clematis what a striking colour it certainly looks very healthy and growing so fast that's amazing.

Hi Misty M. (Mary-anne). I, too, have a few smallies: 3 of 'The Fairy' I love that one, a delicious and absolutely gorgeous feminine pink and disease free. Also one called 'Nearly Wild' I picked up a few years ago from Big W., a pink with white centre but nothing special about it - a bit of a 'plain Jane' in fact. 'Europeana' that I planted last winter but has not yet flowered and, well, that's about it I think. I specialise mostly in Aussie natives, you know, my big plantings have been(are)them, I've 3 to 4 hundred different plants in over an acre and a bit here on the red volcanic soil here at Terranora. Been at it constantly for almost 7 years now since we moved here from Sydney. I love the (honey-eater) birds they (the natives) attract; the challenge they present; their ability to survive where I can't reach with the hose; the foliage (and flower) colour contrast; etc., etc. It's been a lot of work converting this big patch of weeds into a garden; in fact I was banking on entering the garden in next year's Tweed Shire Council Garden comp but I read today in the 'Tweed Link'- the shire news brief - that 'due to a lack of interest' the (gardening) comp will only be available to schools in future! So, I guess I'll have to go join a Garden club and enter their comp. Must admit, though, I went to an invitation meeting of the local club at Twin-Towns Services club a few years ago and thought 'bloody-hell, I know I'm getting on in years but I don't think I'm quite ready for the old folk's home!' Perhaps I over reacted but I didn't think I was quite there yet. You know I use to belong to an email gardening group, mostly folk from Canada and the U.S.A. In fact even after 10 years I'm still in contact with the organiser of that old group, she and I are the only ones left. She no longer gardens much due to life's changes over that time but we're still close friends. It's lovely to find fellow gardeners who have similar interests but I dunno, seems such sites as 'Roses in Oz' are inconsistant with plants other than roses, such as clematis, Aussie natives, other garden challenges, etc. etc. What do you reckon?
Bill
PS Have a nice weekend, and I hope Manly wins the (NRL footbal) final. And the grand final next weekend.

Bill My AFL team Geelong lost...

Did you get my email I sent through here, please look in your spam mail or trash or deleted it was a big email lots of info on it.

Arrr, yes, well, Mary-anne, you see I'm mostly moreover a gardener, not so much a computer whiz type person now, inspite of having done a few courses in the subject (computers) years ago when they were being introduced where I worked (the years are passing, I'm showing my age). Um, is this it: "You have lots of interesting roses there, I have a lot of mini ones that I should not really count. smaller isbetter Bill. that's not much Internet you have got how do you manage. (I'm finding it difficult) I am on a art site also and some of there submissions are huge up to 6MB I can use the amount you get in three days I am not with one of the big guns either."
Other than that I'm not sure where I should look! On AFL. I know you said you were from Melbourne, I'm a Goddam 'cornstalk' a died in the wool N.S.W - elsham. I don't even follow the "Swans", nor AFL at all! NRL, well, yeah, Manly to win the NRL grand final, but I really couldn't care less.
Have I missed a message, Mary-anne? Oh, and I also got you're 'Gidday Bill', message, the one before my clematis V. Ven. message. Um, where do I look for my 'spam mail?'

B
PS How about trying, power.w@.......dotcom. I don't think I've the email you're referring to but, arr, bugger-it! try this addy and maybe we can sort all this out!

Of course you got the email from me Bill through Gardenweb there is a lot more on it.
I had no idea that you would put half my email on here though

Click on my name on the email and get into properties you will find my address there

Or Try hitting the reply button and answering the email.
That way your message will come back to my email address and I can see your address also.

I have sent you another email Bill.

Yesterday was a little warmer here 28degs even though we had a cold and very foggy morning at the present time its 32degs the hottest we have had for a long time. I have not checked Pat Austin today though yesterday she looked very droopy with the heat I planted the three new DA's on the South side of the block so that they don't get as much sun its just gone mid-day here and soon the sun will be over the house so the poor plants will have a bit more shade.

But its early days yet after all they have only been in the ground three months, by time three years are up which is the time my roses finally take off hopefully they will be used to this heat.

I've been trying, I've been trying! I haven't seen any email from you so how could I have put half of your email on here? Buggered if I know, I went into your page, saw the beautiful sunset, looked at your journal and hit on the "send you an email message" and it seemed to send but it didn't go into my Outlook Express email though! I also put the curser on your page and right clicked to find properties but that didn't help. Hopefully you got that email! I'll keep trying, I'll check blocked message, see if I can find 'Spam' mail, etc.

Mary-ann, I tried sending you an email but when I clicked on send mistymorn an email no message box came up! I tried it in my journal, send myself an email, and yes, a message box appeared. Try yours see if a message box appears, maybe my computer! I'll go have a glass or two of a nice chardona (excuse spelling) and try again tonight.

M-a, Golly, I dunno if you have the same problems with computers, etc, that I have but let me tell you: Half way through the first glass of c. (see above) I realised what the problem was - at least half of it. I registered with the Garden-Web in 2001, since then I have changed my email address (a couple of times), so, no matter what you send through the garden web email facility, it'll never get to me, and, as I have found, you'll never be informed that the message was never recieved. And you know what? I've given up trying to change the details in my page, it just wont accept the user name and password it already has, so I can't get into it! Weird, yes, no wonder folks are leaving this site, I've had to send an email to the organisers, who-ever, telling them my new email address, it's not williama@qldnet.com.etc; it's bigpond plus other info (codifiedly detailed in above messages). I didn't get your emails and you wont get mine. The second problem: I don't think you've given them (garden-web) your email address, cause no message box comes up when anyone tries to send you an email (well, me anyway)! Why? I dunno; when I hear back from Garden-web re my them inserting my new email address (or telling me how to RELIABLY do so) I'll let you know. Or we take the risk and publish them here! From my experience, though, that's not a goood idea.
Bill.

It seems hopeless, Mary-anne, I can't edit my profile to record a change of email address, and I can't even re-join on account of the fact the registration is American and it now makes no provision for an Australian zip or post code. When you insert the code (mine 2486) and the country, Australia, there is then no Australian state in the list! Therefore, when you go to register it keeps rejecting on account of the 'zip' code mis-match. But you cant match it as the list has no Australian states listed! I give up!

I don't have any problems editing my profile. For anyone wanting to join you have to put 5 numbers in a Post Code I looked in mine for you and it has got KY as the place and 12345 as the zip code or whatever

My email is not showing anymore you can do that when you edit your profile, as I am too generous with my plants giving so many away for free I have had so many emails from not very nice people telling me to post plants to them and not even sending me a prepaid satchel yes they tell you they will send the postage back but don't I have been caught once I could go on but I wont go into that.

Bill where did you get this info from as that's what I wrote in the email * You have lots of interesting roses there, I have a lot of mini ones that I should not really count, yes and about the small amount of Internet you have * that is what I sent inn a email from your page here, so you certainly got it if you wrote it up top..

This morning I also sent you a email to that address you wrote many replies up top, now it did not come back to me so you must have received it or its still flying around in cyberspace somewhere.

So try and find that email again were I sent you all the info .. When it is open and you are reading it hit the reply button write me a message if you want then send it and when I get it I will see your email address.

Hope that Chardonnay helped with this problem. Mary-Anne

Here is is below, Mary-ann, it's contained in the message - the posting - above, it's dated "Sat 27, 08 at 3.40" I can't get your emails as that is not now my email address! The ISP I was with then sold out their broadband network to Cirrus comms, and I quit them on account of their extremely poor service, I'm now with Bigpond. As I said above I also sent myself an email though the Garden webb address and I, too, never got it back unclaimed, I don't know why, I guess it's also still floating somewhere in cyber space. I'll try again tonight to change it. Your message (copied and pasted) below, is posted 12 message (including this one) above!!
"You have lots of interesting roses there, I have a lot of mini ones that I should not really count..
Smaller is better Bill that's not much Internet you have got how do you manage. I am on a art site also and some of there submissions are huge up to 6MB I can use the amount you get in three days I am not with one of the big guns either.

I love that Clematis what a striking colour it certainly looks very healthy and growing so fast that's amazing."
On your email address, golly, how mean folks are? The ones you sent plants to! Don't blame you for removing your address.

Yes I see what you mean sorry.. What about the one I sent to big pond, you mean you did not get that either, you can get in and change your email address if you want.. I have put my address on my page please email me as I will remove it tomorrow wednesday

It's been done M-a, And I also registered funnelweb1, which I'll either delete or never further use. After I sent you off an email, which I did this morning, I went in and removed my (current) email addy from this registration. You should be able to remove yours again too now. Hope you got my email ok?

Well done... Yes I received your email.
I have also removed my email address again

Mary-anne, I looked at the site you suggested and think I will certainly contribute there - in the roses segment and the natives, but will wait until the 5th when my megabite bucket is refilled by my ISP coy (400 megs a month! yep, not enough).
b.

It must be hard having only a small amount of Usage..

I have Pat and its not quite right
I also have charles and that rose is the same shape.
Charles can vary in colour. Do a web search. Sometimes its yellowish but sometimes far more apricot like just joey.
My charles is divine and deep apricot but looks like yours as it fades.
Check this one out
http://i.pbase.com/u23/marysa/upload/13498293.grahamthomas.jpg

If you don't mind a visitor chiming in--and if you haven't found out now through experience, the first bloom on many roses often doesn't show up the right color. Hopefully you've had enough blooms by now that your Pat Austin is finally blooming the color it should.

I'm keeping that Seduction pic in mind--might be the rose I'm searching for. Thanks.

Good luck,

Kate