Thanks! I have a question though, everything I am reading when I search "Trachelospermum asiaticum" says it flowers?? It has never flowered here, is there another type that does not flower, could that be what I have? or should the Trachelospermum asiaticum growing in my yard flower at some point during the year? thanks again

Bahaha thanks doc, that was good. I do already have a couple of nasty spines just from moving it to the yard. Rose Marie, thank you! I think you nailed it! I've hiked 75 miles through the Sonoran desert south of Tucson and i've marveled at the forests of Cholla but i've never been brave enough to grow one on my own. They're pretty vicious!

Thank you very much for the ID's. The first one is near the spot where I saw the bad-looking P. mugo subsp. rotunda about which I asked an ID too. At first I though they were both the same species because they looked similar, but when I went too look closer then I could see the cones were definitely different. Funny part is that someone else suggested in that thread where I asked for an ID that it could be P. thunbergii. So I guess both trees are similar looking indeed. The second one I think comes from a hedge close-by that was (I think) never trimmed and therefore started producing cones. The third one is almost a miracle to me. Closest Abies koreana that I'm aware of is at least a few hundred meters away from where I found it. I'm very glad I dug it out too because A. koreana was also on my wanted list. :)

Thanks for the replies, but we are still on the track for ID of this plant. Greenthumbzdud said it looked like a Begonia 'Bonfire', but if you look at the leaves, the leaves on my plant have jagged edgies to the leaves, and the red part of the plant is quite meaty. Someone else mentioned a cactus. No, definately not a cactus. Any other ideas would be welcome and thanks for taking the time to reply.