You know on the bottle of liquid Clorox 2 it says gets out dryer dried stains. Doesn't necessarily mean it works but worth a try. Also half blue Dawn and half hydrogen peroxide mixed together and put on stains works very well. And I have never had it fade anything. You could try a hidden seam first if worried about fade. Liquid Tide might bring it out also.

Thanks for posting the color swatch and full photo of the plant. It is interesting to see this ancestor of many of today's hybrids. I like the naturalness of the bloom shape. Are you growing it under your combination of natural light supplemented with lamps? Kent Stork used Arcturus to develop Powwow, which is a great red and excellent to grow. Joanne

Very wise, gagal. I'm not much of a gambler so I do the same. And I totally agree with your evaluation of Spice. That is exactly the way it behaves here, too. Arosebyanyother, I'm not sure where you are so my choices may not be suitable for you. I grow these in my camellia bed where the star is my older camellia surrounded by roses. In the same bed are: Mystic Beauty and Souvenir de St. Anne's, both of the SdlM family, Bolero, a Meilland floribunda fussypants rose (Thanks for that, Cynthia) Lullaby, a showy and fragrant poly with a hint of lilac pink in cold weather Baby Alberic- a poly that blushes yellow in cool weather and reminds me of a mini tea rose Clothilde Soupert, a white/pink blush poly that performs like Spice but may ball in cool wet weather I will be switching out a couple struggling roses to a better spot for them (I hope) and will add Ferdinand Pichard.

Well, I learned that our HBO Max is kind of a bonus with our Hulu, and not everything is available on it. Including Murders at White House Farm. I’ll see if one of our libraries has it, though.