Okay-- a couple of things. First, the poly's not necessary between the foundation and studs. Secondly, I missed the part about the shower pan being the concrete floor. That shouldn't be done. The ONLY way you could get away with it, as far as I'm concerned, would be to set a Kerdi drain in the concrete, with the "halo" flush with the concrete, and then the floor could be Kerdi'ed to the walls, along WITH the walls. THEN it would work. Of course, the concrete in that area would have to be sloped appropriately to the drain (1/4" per running foot from the furthest point away from the drain) But to just expect the slab to act as the pan with no waterproofing, and not expect to have problems would be fooling yourself.

hmmm...the red message is dated Jan 7th and it says Beginning tomorrow at 10pm ET, we will be making hardware upgrades to our site that will necessitate downtime to our forums. Did it earlier say that the upgrades would begin tonight? or did I read it wrong. Anyway...I guess they won't be doing anything until Tues at 10PM. Sue...who stays in a constant state of confusion

Well Geesh, guys. Shucks. Those are awfully sweet sentiments yourselves.... thanks. I usually feel like what I post is massively dopey, too. Just never know I guess. I haven't got the wisdom of *anyone* on this forum -- rhome for instance. Boy does it mean a lot, oh mom of *ten* for goodness sake?! That you take the time amidst what has to be a massively busy day to actually think about a stranger's kitchen layout?! Wild. I so hung on your attention, Rhome, when I was at sea with the layout. I'd come home and wonder whether you'd abandoned me yet or whether you could be imposed upon just long enough more to help me get a workable layout! But it's funny that you thought this had shown up in *short* time. Wow. It's been 6 months since I walked into the KD's with a nearly-complete plan. I've been doing cartwheels of impatience inside at the ridiculous pace. I dunno. Everything's relative I guess. I've been making a concerted effort to begin to start trying to "give back", but I find I don't know hardly anymore than I started. I know about drawer size now! That's nearly it. A little about ventilation maybe. But the designer stuff and the color stuff -- just not my forte. Today, I started unpacking spices. Let me look for a sneak-peak photo ... And here's the start of the unearthing of the pantry's glass jars. The picture also shows the contraption I did wind up putting on the peninsula wall even though the wisdom here seemed pretty much to be 'Don't Do It'! I think the prevailing feeling was along the lines of 'too complicated' and 'why'. But I really like it. I like the space up top for displaying kids' art stuff and I like the special place on the side with space for my post-its and calendars atop the *large* dedicated recycling bin. And I like the special teas-cabinet. It's probably not big enough, but I think I need to stop buying tea; seems to be an obsession akin to buying yarn which I almost need a new house for all by itself. I did hear y-all about its heaviness and responded by narrowing it down. It's just 10.5" depth to the wall I think, making for narrow cabinets inside. But I think it works; I really like it: And here you can kind of see the piano-shape of the island/peninsula. It's really hard to get a picture that 'comprehends' the shape. For some reason it's clear-enough in person but static photos somehow don't "get" it -- I don't get why that should be? Still photography is very strange. I try moving the camera high. oblique, flash and not ... it's hard to convey. Mtnredux: I'm still rolling all over the place envisioning this "intervention". I've never liked the term in the best of circumstances but this is just pain a hilarious image. Only among the TKO could this even be contemplated. And if I ever wondered whether I'd entered the hallowed realm yet of the TKO, I think this might be a clue. (as in: Duh!) Breezy -- I'm up for a bet?! What have you left to do? Actually, I should probably post a thread on that maybe? Tell Us What You Have Left. It could be thought of as a public service in terms of helping people to organize their thoughts and tasks. But also, misery loves company so surely it will be useful to know how you stack up in overload against the rest! But when you say "done by Xmas", I think I am jealous. There was a time I actually thought we'd be done "in three weeks". Really. I can barely comprehend how stupid a thought that was. And I have a hard time imagining being done in less than twice that unit in months worth. Oh dear. When I start to think about it I start to panic .... fiddle dee dee. I can't wait to finish loading up the pantry and posting back onto the thread where I asked for help with this. There was another, memorable comment there. I had been worrying again I was asking a stupid question, too subjective without any real answer and someone so kindly said something like 'I was wondering the same thing. Do post back when you figure it out so I can get some hints from you' ... something like that. I love what we wound up with. The flours started going in the dedicated massive drawer for them today and it will be a happy day when I get shelf-heights figured out and can post it for real back onto that thread!

I have been wondering about her, too. Certainly hope all is OK with her.