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I just figured out the letters. Sleeper is talking about Real Housewives of New Jersey Chloecat.

Thanks, Jas. I didn't think anyone who didn't know the show would bother to open the thread.

Theresa has really become crazy; her husband is acting like a jealous loser. Even after his financial and court/police problems, it's time to become a stand-up husband, father and man.

Of course, there's a lot we don't see because of editing, but did Theresa actually lie to Melissa and say she HAD read the texts that her husband sent to Melissa's husband? All I saw was that someone at the table at Theresa's house read a paraphrase of the texts, and he never said who sent the first text and what it said.

(And Theresa needs to clean up her relationship with Kathy, that's for sure. She's got a grudge going back to not being part of Kathy's wedding? Kathy's got 2 teenagers by now! Move on already!)

Thanks, Jas - and as for why I opened the thread, I was curious as to what RHONJ was. Simple.

I'm on neither side, I think they both fuel the fire. There are some deeper issues than what is being said and I don't think either side really wants to work it out. If they did, then there wouldn't be the constant nasty comments behind each other's backs. Kudos to Caroline and Jacqueline for not taking sides. Maybe someday Teresa will wise up and listen to mamma Caroline.

I don't think the housewives are paying for these vacations to Morocco, Italy, Mexico, etc..., Bravo is hooking them up somehow.

My wish for this show is that Ashley leave ASAP. What a brat!!!

Nuts! I forgot to watch last night. but it will be reshown,,again and again. LOL
In my opinion, I think Teresa holds on to a grudge waaaay too long. Geesh!
I so agree with you, Matti5, There is absolutely no way I would put up with a daughter treating me the way she treats her Mom. She needs to be shown the door, out you go to experience "The real world" when you have an attitude adjustment, you can always come back. Then you'll see that you really don't have it so bad living under my roof.
Speaking of the housewives series. I wonder whats going to happen with the B.H. group. If they will edit the scenes with Taylor's late husband, Russell.

Theresa has turned out to be a real train wreck! How she can stand 'JuicyJoe' is waaay beyond me. He is proving himself to be a loser and the source of many of their problems. He makes my skin crawl.

I like Melissa and, like many of you, I think Teresa is jealous of Melissa and all she has. I like Joe Gorga and think he is way better and has more to offer than his sister or her drunk husband. But tell me...does anyone else here wonder if Joe Gorga can read? Twice this season Teresa has given something to her brother that she written, just for him, but both times he has insisted that someone else read it aloud to him; the letter she wrote at the beginning of this season and, the inscription she added to the book he bought at the book signing. I thought both requests were a bit *off*. Made me wonder if he has a problem with reading or even his eyes. I digress... I like Joe Gorga and in last nights show he was right on the money with telling Teresa about the tx he had gotten from JucieJoe. Teresa seems unable to see the forest for the trees. I think Melissa has a good voice and can sing. Not sure about the song she was singing but her voice is way better than the other Housewives we have heard so far...Kim & Luann (?).

Ashley is a drag to the show. The dynamic between she and Jacqueline is unhealthy and painful to watch. Jacqueline needs to shut up and allow Ashley some time finish a thought and Ashley needs to have some thoughts that are based in reality. She thinks she is going to move to CA and have her own house? Hummm...how exactly would that work? Ashley needs to grow up but she also still needs a lot of help from the adults in her life...if any of them can stand her. Just because she is 20 does not mean that she is ready to take on the responsibility of life completly on her own. She needs to move to TX to live with or near her father for a while. She still needs a bit of a safty net but she needs to get away from her mother and her stepfathers $$.

I don't have much interest in the Manzos but I think that Kathy and her family have been a nice addition to the show. How many seasons has this show had so far? I think I saw the first short season with the table flipping and I am sure that I have seen just about all of this current season but had to stop wathing past seasons when I could no longer stand Daniel and that other women with that gross cat, Caroline's sister Deana (?).

But to answer your original question...Melissa.

sooey

Sooey, I thought the same thing last night when Joe asked Teresa to read the inscription she wrote in the book. The first time it happened with the letter from her, he did not even look at it, just handed it to Melissa and said "read it to me". Although I wonder how he reads the nasty text messages from Joe Guidice.

Ditto re: Juicy Joe...Yuck!! What a disgusting A$$ he made of himself last night.

It was nice to see Ashley's dad, stepmom, Jacqueline and Chris be a united force in dealing with bratty Ashley.

I really enjoy the scenes with Albie and Chris, I think they are hilarious.

FYI, Dina Manzo now has her own Event design show on HGTV. I was impressed.

Sooey, you are hysterical. Your post had me in stitches. I never noticed that about Joe Gorga, but I assume he sent his own texts to Juicy? Interesting observation.

I loved how T. had to say they were all "great mothers" at the goddess party. She can't even let Melissa have a compliment to herself, sheesh. And I beg to differ, I think T. needs to get those 4 girls in line. I would be so embarrassed to have my kid act that way in the grocery store.

I, too, like Kathy and her family. She seems like a nice down-to-earth gal and her husband is a hoot. Kids seem well-adjusted, too.

Matti5...you are correct re: Joe reading the nasty tx from Jucie! Thanks for reminding me about that. I guess he can read.

I really do not like Ashley at all...not even a little. But I think she needs some help. She may well have a learning disability or even ADD that has added to the issues we see in her. Get her the help she needs but get her off the show.

Dina! Yes,that was her. Caroline sister, right? She was one of the two that I found to be way too anoying to watch. I thought she could be snotty and mean...did not like the way she treated people. I don't think I'll be watching a show that she is on.

Thanks, I'm glad to know that cute, little Joe Gorga can read. He sure has beautiful eyes. He and Melissa make a cute couple.

Sooey

Ashley needs to grow up real fast because Daddy will not be there for her any more. Her real Dad and his new wife were both just arrested and are in jail for setting fire to their home, so charged with arson, fraud, money laundering, the insurance had paid them about half a million dollars and she spent a big chunk on a lot of plastic surgery, a $40,000 ring and Ashley got a nose job. So not much hope Daddy can bail Ashley out now and he sure won't be able to have her come stay with him in prison.

R e a l H o u s e w i v e s S t a r A s h l e e H o l m e s � F a t h e r A r r e s t e d F o r A r s o n & F r a u d - - S e e T h e M u g S h o t s Real Housewives Star Ashlee Holmes� Father Arrested For Arson & Fraud -- See The Mug Shots

Photos: NJ Housewives� Ashley Holmes Got A Nose Job
RHONJ Ashley Holmes� Dad Matt Holmes Arrested For Arson, Insurance Fraud & Money Laundering

Thanks for the info ravencajun! Daddy sure can't help her now. The twists and turns within these families never ceases to amaze me.

I too like Kathy and her family. I'd love to see her write a cookbook, her desserts look fantastic.

Wow, ravencajun, where do you find this stuff? Very interesting. I guess Ashley can't turn to her father for support after all. Sounds like he may be in a bit of trouble down in TX. But holy cow, I looked at the mug shots...do jails really use those black & white strip jail house uniforms? I thought those were only in cartoons.

I agree sleeperblues, Teresa can not allow Melissa to get a compliment. She has to always *one-up* Melissa at every turn.

How many more episodes in this season? It seems to be going on for a long time.

sooey

Speaking about T's one upsmanship (is that even a word? LOL) At the Diva party someone, I think it was Kathy, mentioned about opening a restaurant and of course, T pops up with, thats our next step, were going to open a restaurant. Where do they get their money, much less to live the way they do, but have the $$$ to open a restaurant, after their bankruptcy fiasco.

I can't imagine T's book sales are that fantastic that they can still afford the lifestyle and I don't think Bravo pays that well. Juicy Joe's pizza place must be a cash cow lol

Jucie has a pizza place? Does he work in it?

Yes to both (I think). There was an episode this season that showed T having a book signing at Juicy's pizza parlor. He was flipping pizzas and waiting on customers. T talked about this being his new job. This is the same place they showed last season that he was renovating and also had the tiny one bedroom apartments above. He joked to T that they may be living in them someday.

I thought I heard that restaurant failed? I might be wrong, and could easily google it, I suppose.

You're right! I looked it up and saw that he sold it.