This is a no-brainer.....get paid!! Ridiculous for anyone to expect anything else. Honestly, I always wanted my weekends free from work, if at all possible, so I wouldn't have wanted to do it even for pay. Good luck.

Shirley

Get Paid.

Your time is worth money, especially every Sunday. In Fact, most people get time and a half to work weekends.

Honestly, I would NOT do it unless they paid me.

Since it's an on-going thing, I would certainly expect to be paid. You are losing too much of your weekend to do it just to be a nice person, in my opinion.

Get paid...split the Sundays with the new Director, and insist on 3 hours pay..it should come out of the rental fee.

You are a paid employee, and the church is paying for it's use...and your opening and closing is part of the expense that should be paid out of the rental fee.

Do you work a 36 hour week?....if so, then time and a half for those Sundays.

Paid! For Sure! You need to speak up.

Gayle

You should diffinately get paid for it. That kind of job doesn't take much time to do, but it completely fouls up all your plans for every weekend. That is like an "on-call" job.

It's always easy for someone who has already been paid for doing a job to come along and expect someone else to do it for nothing. If you take on that responsibility, you will soon regret it, unless it is worth the bother.

When we rent our building out for long term contracts, they get a key and are responsible for opening and closing the building. Not sure if this is possible in your situation though.

Otherwise, yes, you should be paid.

The building where Anna takes Martial Arts classes is rented to a church every Sunday. They have their own key and they have to leave it clean. Is that an option?

Linda

Absolutely - you need to get paid. Why on earth
would they expect you to put your week-ends on hold
for nothing?

Stick up for your rights. I like the idea of them
having a key and keeping it clean too.

I think she is running with half a deck....OF COURSE you should get paid...It's not a volunteer job...

Also...if she is the OLD director who is leaving, what business is it of hers??

People just drive me nuts...

Your time is worth just as much has hers was. Well...I'd say MORE...lol...gosh..it even takes time away from your cyber family...!!!!!

patti

If she got paid...why the heck wouldn't you?!??

I agree with those that say they should just get a key. I am assuming that you town is realatively small?...our town has a few buildings that are rented out to different things, and you are expected to pick up the key on Friday during business hours, and drop it back in the box before business day on Monday. Yes, they have to have it cleaned as well as it was when they rented it. They do not have use of any offices.

If they aren't willing to give the renters a key, then absolutely you should get paid. It should be for more than just 3 hours though....4 sounds more like it. If we ever got called in to work and then weren't needed, we were given 4 hours pay.

Well, this sounds like a no-brainer.

Another thought - did the old director live nearby, so she didn't have to spend much gas/time taking care of the Sunday opening/closing? And maybe she didn't have other weekend obligations, like you. But on the other hand, even if she did live close, she was still paid extra. Makes no sense that you wouldn't get paid . . .

Seems to me that if it's the same church group renting out the place every time, they should assume the responsibility and leave you out of it.

You should absolutely get paid...and if it were me, I certainly wouldn't stop my life for 3 hours on a Sunday. What I mean is, if you have plans, give them enough time to secure someone else for any Sunday that you need off. Working every Sunday for 3 crummy hours would put a crimp in anyone's day/week/weekend. It sounds like you're more upset about being obligated to working every Sunday. That's a big expectation in my book. I see no reason for anyone to be tied down to a 3-hour day on a Sunday unless they were getting paid time and a half. And if they don't like your terms, let them get someone else do it. Nope, uh uh, wouldn't do it.

What everyone else said! Don't understand why you shouldn't be paid when they've been paying all along.

Check with the Labor Board in your state.
I know when I was working if I got called in to work and then after I arrived, the supervisor decided I wasn't needed, I was paid for four hours even though I may have only been there 20 minutes.
It may be illegal for your employer to not pay you......if you aren't being paid, what about your insurance, work comp benefits, etc?
I wouldn't do it for free because of the possibility of the company denying any liability if you happened to slip and fall while locking up.

Aren't there other alternatives? The new Director surely has some say in this. What would happen if you refuse to do the Sunday opening/closing, paid or not?

Your life is much too busy to be tied down to something like that every weekend.

Maybe that would be something one of the part timers would like to do, FOR PAY. No one should be expected to do it for free.

Sue

They say all genius' think alike!
Here is proof positive!

You guys are right: I should be paid or the group pick up a key on Friday and leave it in the building on Sunday afternoon. This is something I hadn't considered but it a great idea. The old director lives/lived a half block away from the building. I live a half mile. And you guys are right: it's not really the time or distance that I resent but the fact I am just expected to give up my Sunday afternoon.

The old director is also somewhat of a control freak.
She gave notice nearly three months ago in order to find replacements and train. In my opinion she should have left six weeks ago. She keeps trying to implement hard and fast policies before she leaves...like she wants to run the place after she is gone. I understand her mixed feelings; this building has been 'hers' for twelve years but golly. Enough is enough!

LOL

As it is she hasn't said for sure when she is leaving.
Right now her newest last day is August 15. Her first 'last day' was July 11. It's time for her to untie the ties and go and let us make and fix our own mistakes. She is off for two weeks for a family function then another week while she has surgery on her hands. After that it is doubtful the county will pay her. According to the County Clerk there is no need to pay her AND me AND her replacement. And, I agree. Like I said, she needs to move on and let us figure out our way to do the job.

Thanks everyone.
I will suggest to the new director the key idea and I think she will agree. That means today will be my last day to open/close the building.

It's not just the Labor Board in Utah that would enter into this -- it's the (Federal) Fair Labor Standards Act.

If you are in a management position that doesn't pay over time, you would, in exchange, be able to take off less than a full day and not have to charge the time against any sick leave or vacation hours. If you are in a rank and file position, you earn overtime/comp time, and do have to charge sick leave or vacation hours for every portion of every hour that you are off.

So, unless you are in one of those management postions, you could just smile sweetly and say, "oh, gosh, I wish that I could do this for free, but I wouldn't want to get you in trouble with the Feds..."

And if you are in a management position, you could start leaving every Friday after having been in the office for, say, 30 minutes. You'd get a two-day "weekend" that way. And if anyone said anything, refer them to the FLSA.

Another option is to 'schedule' you to work four hours on Sundays and give you four hours off another day of the week ... maybe Friday afternoon? Of course that would depend entirely on whether you'd be willing to work a schedule like that.

Good luck, Lori! What ever happened to Mrs. I Can't Work on the Food Until I Have An Audience and It's 10 Minutes Until Lunch? I hope she's gone.

Seems like the key thing is the answer. That is what we did with our building when I was at the health dept. It was an old church and the HD was in the basement and we rented out the top floor (sanctuary) for many groups. We required a deposit and it was returned when they returned the key. Usually, they just gave us a check and we held it and returned it when they brought back the key.
Worked very well.

LOL
She's off on sick leave Flamey and believe it or not, her replacement is worse than she is!

The new chick takes all morning to make 18 sack lunches, leaves to deliver meals (six of them) at ten to eleven and doesn't return until quarter past twelve and after the in-house patrons have been served. Then she takes a smoke break until the seniors leave. Then she has her dinner. Then she takes another smoke break. Then she can't do clean up because bleach makes her hands break out and she's allergic to rubber gloves so she sweeps, half of the floor but not under the tables. Then she takes a smoke break. Then she drags the garbage sacks across the ground to the dumpster, breaking them open and scattering garbage all over and leaves it. Then she takes a smoke break. A freezer went out last week and she couldn't help load meat (to transport to another freezer at the store) because she doesn't have enough wind to do anything.

It's appalling.

It's embarrassing.

If anyone says anything to her about her work (like in 'tie your hair back' or 'cut your fingernails' or 'put gloves on when you handle food' or 'don't flick your cigarette butts on the Church lawn next door') she gets all wide eyed and says 'well W_____ (the old boss) says it's okay if I do this!'.

*Lori pulling her hair out and it isn't pretty*

The patrons complain to me about her. When I relay the complaints to the old director she gets mad and says
I don't like the new girl and haven't given her a chance. This is not true. I just don't feel sorry for her. LOL The poor woman has no clue how to work. What's worse, she doesn't want to learn how to work. The new director is very displeased with the work ethic too. I REALLY ticked the old boss off when, after I served twenty people on my own while this chick was of doing god knows what, said I'd rather have the old lazy woman back. LOL

One of of patrons in the meals on wheels program is 80 years old, dependent on oxygen but very friendly. He thinks every woman is beautiful and likes to hold your hand or pat you butt. When this happens I smile nicely, say 'thank you' to his compliment and stay out of his reach.

Well...the new woman has been sitting down and flirting with this guy, spending as much as a half an hour in his house, alone with him. Then she gave him her home phone number. THEN she complained that he was getting too familiar with her and she was afraid of him.
WTF?
The old director got all upset with him and told me I would probably have to start delivering a meal to him because, well, it just upset the new woman soooooo much to which I said 'I don't think so..does the commissioners know about this?' so instead of telling this woman (who is thirty years old with three children) to 'just stay out of his way' she goes and has a 'talk' with the old guy. Of course he became indignant, complained to every other old folk in the county and got the old director in trouble when word got back to the commissioners. LOL She maintains nobody understands the new woman and that she just needs to be helped a lot, that's all.

change is so interesting.

lori

Oh, brother. You live in Peyton Place, Lori, who knew? I hope you get to hang out in the library and avoid all these goofy people! I would be so annoyed all the time, how can you stand it?

I reallly like my job but that is not why I go in every day. I show up because I need the pay cheque every week.
If they don't pay me, I don't go in. Period!
Occasionally I work Saturday mornings for 3 hours. I mentioned to my boss that the extra money was eaten up by income tax he suggested that he pay me a flat rate in cash when I worked those extra 3 hours. I jumped all over that! So every so often, I get an extra cash bonus in my pay.
I would just insist that they compensate you for your time and work, either by paying you your regular wage for 3 hours or by giving you time off in lieu of pay. Would they let you bank the time and take extra paid holidays?
Why would any employer expect a person to work for nothing? That is too much to ask in my opinion.
There have been times when I have stayed late or gone in early to help out. (if someone is sick or in an emergency) but I have never even had to ask about being payed. It was automatically assumed I would be, and I was)