Somehow I don't think a judge would let that happen.

Has anyone else noticed that Michael's younger son Blanket looks an awful lot like Miko Brando, Michaels long time friend?? Just and observation.

Honestly, who knows with that family? The only one I have truly cared for is his mother, Katherine. I just have always felt like she has had to put up with alot to try and keep her family somewhat in tact.(or least in her mind) I imagine if the accusations about Joe Jackson are true and he did beat on his kids, I am sure he did not spare is dear wife.(so sad) JMThoughts...

I agree with rthummer. He's just looking for some way to cash in on this. He was left out of the will and custody of the kids for a good reason.
Leslie

I think Blanket is the only child that actually does look like MJ.

I don't believe foul play is involved. MJ wanted drugs. MJ had money. Wave enough money in front of someone and sooner or later they take it OR MJ finds another doctor who will. Sad but true.

same as elvis...he got what HE wanted...

Yes, I believe Michael killed himself over time with the misuse of drugs. He was so mentally and physically messed up he could not stop himself. Too bad no one was able to step in and save him. Maybe it's good he's gone because he suffers no more, but he had more music to share and the world will not have that to enjoy now.

Blanket...which of the kids is called "Blanket?"

Joe Jacksons should not be allowed alone with his grandkids. Maybe he would beat or otherwise mistreat them also. I feel Grandma, aunts, and uncles will keep them safe from him.

Socks, Blanket is the youngest. He's the one that was dangled over the balcony, and was covered with a blanket.

As far as what I've heard, Joe and Katherine don't even live together, so how are he and Katherine going to raise the children?

On Larry King last night Miko Brando said he is not Blanket's father, and he said none of that is important anyway. Hmmm.

Pity these poor children who may never know who their real parents are. Of course they call MJ Dad, but he is not their Father. Of course, there are adopted children who never know their real parents, but this case is so bizarre there is no comparison to that. I also heard that there should have been a legal adoption by MJ, but that never happened.

If MJ wanted children, why did he not want to father them, which he could have done through supplying the sperm?

True, MJ got the drugs he wanted, but the doctors were giving them to him so I think they should be held responsible.

Blanket is the youngest.

Sue

If MJ was diagnosed with lupus and vitiligo perhaps he was concerned that his children would also develop them. Lupus is an autoimmune disease- it's isn't directly inherited but you can be genetically predisposed. Since the cause and the cure aren't known he might have been cautious about the possibility of passing them along.

Enjoys spring,

Yes, I had that thought too of the youngest aka Blanket( I really wish he was called by a different name but since older brother has the same name...) looked like the spitting image of Miko Brando. He was doing a lot of interviews at first but haven't seen him lately. I don't know but he kind of gave me the creeps(Miko) You don't think he will try and get custody do you? I really have to stop watching this train wreck in progress but hard to look away. We must not be the only ones who see the resemblance of Miko and Blanket. As for the two older from what I know (not much) children born during a marriage, regardless of parentage are considered children of that marriage so adoption is not a issue, in most cases. MJ and Debbie R. were married at the time of birth on 2 older children.

A lot of people who want children choose not to have their own kids biologically. My own daughter is considering adopting, and she is not aware of any fertility issues- it's not about that for her.

I believe that anyone who provided drugs to MJ illicitly (or to anyone else, for that matter), should be held accountable.

One radio or tv panel discussion of people who know of the Jackson family said that Joe lives in their house a lot. They also talked of the comments made that Joe molested his kids. I sure hope he is not around those grandkids in their home and not alone with them. MJ had reasons for his strong dislike of that man.

The old man is a real creep. Katherine seems grounded. The little one, Blanket?, what a bizaare name, looks a lot like MJ. The others can't be his no matter how white he got. They bear no resemblance to MJ as a kid. I think they resemble each other tho.

someone called a radio station and believes that Palin is resigning as Alaska's governor because she did something to Michael Jackson that killed him! lol

Joe Jackson is a freak and has no business being anywhere near children. He just wants his face out there in the media. Ditto Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. They are all publicity hounds from he!! (and worthless excuses for human beings).

I agree with Angelaid.

Also, if Kathryn Jackson could not or would not protect her own children from abuse in the prime of her life, how is she at age 79 going to protect 3 of her grandchildren?

"Blanket" is a nickname, not the child's actual name.

Joe Jackson is creepy. I wouldn't believe anything he says.

I think the autopsy results will rule it accidental death. Case closed, Joe won't be making any more money off his son. I pity those three children.

I would be willing to bet that if Joe has any control, those 3 children will be on the road performing in "tributes" for the next 20 years. Shocking thought!!!

He is a creep!! Half the time I can't understand him he
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Posted by lily316: "The little one, Blanket?, what a bizaare name, looks a lot like MJ. The others can't be his no matter how white he got. They bear no resemblance to MJ as a kid. I think they resemble each other tho."

MJ's wife Debbie Rowe, is Caucasian, blond and pale. Any kids they have will be Mulatto. The two children from their marriage look to be racially mixed just like one would expect. The youngest child MJ has, is said to be adopted so one would not expect the child to look anything like him, unless the child was adopted from a relative as some people do with adoption. Then there may be some family resemblance.

Supposedly the adoption of Blanket was done using a surrogate mother and MJ as the father.

Whatever the case, it should just be a matter between MJ and his (now divorced) wife. Why are so many people speculating on the parentage of their children? Do they do that with their neighbors and co-workers?

I don't see that the oldest 2 look racially mixed at all. No way

I also don't think Katharine--who couldn't protect her own kids from Monster Joe is the person to hand these poor kids over to.

My vote has always been for Rebbi to take them. She seems to be the most grounded of all the Jacksons (and some of you are probably saying 'who's Rebbi?'--which just confirms my point.)

But the fact is, these poor kids have had such an ubelievalby bizarre life up til now, even if they were put in an obscure, wholsome, loving caring family--they probably wouldn't have much of a chance at achieving 'normal'. Are you aware that their toys were thrown out every night and new ones appeared in the morning? and that's just one of the excesses they've lived with all their lives.

I would think at some time the children would be curious about their biological parents. Right now it's like finding your face on a milk carton or "who am I really" You've grown up without a mother and now your father has died and strangers are coming out of the woodwork claiming to be family.
In the Martin Bashir documentary, MJ describes running home with Paris as soon as they cut the cord and before they cleaned her up. Did he not ever think she would ever hear about this strange behavior?
He didn't adopt but bought 3 white babies because he could.
The whole thing is creepy and I see tons of therapy in the kids futures.

Yesterday, I watched an interview from 3 years ago w/Michael-he said that Paris was named Paris as that's where she was 'conceived'...and that Blanket's surrogate mother who received MJ's sperm-was a black woman-not white like the 1st 2 children's mother. MJ said he didn't know her, nor care-"as long as she was healthy & had some intellect'. He also told the interviewer that Paris' blue eyes didn't necessarily come from her mother as MJ's dad Joe, has blue eyes.

I read that the third child nicknamed "Blanket" was borne by a surrogate mother, identity unknown.

"He also told the interviewer that Paris' blue eyes didn't necessarily come from her mother as MJ's dad Joe, has blue eyes."

Then if he said that, he does not understand how genetics work. Blue eyes is a recessive trait and for a child to have blue eyes the recessive trait must come from both the mother and father. In humans eye color is a complex polygenic trait. MJ's father DOES have blue eyes. MJ could very well carry the recessive trait for blue making him a Tt. Rowe DOES have blue eyes. She can only give the trait for blue since she would be tt. They would have a 50/50 change of having blue eyes children BUT, that does not mean that in the roll of the dice, that ALL of their children could be blue eyed OR ALL of them brown eyed. Each genetic deposition at the time is a unique event and not predicated on the previous outcomes. In other words.......if you toss a coin, you have a 50/50 chance of it coming up heads or tails. That is the mathematical fact. BUT, if you toss a coin ten times, it could come up heads ten times in a row. Or come up heads only three times. Or only once.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_color#Blue

Here is a link that might be useful: Eye Color = Blue

" She seems to be the most grounded of all the Jacksons (and some of you are probably saying 'who's Rebbi?'--which just confirms my point."

You are referring to Maureen Reilette Jackson who is best know for her recorded single, using the stage name Rebbie. Michael wrote and produced, and also sang with her (along with LaToya). There was also a video to go along with the single. The song did not do too well, and her career never took off despite another try at singing in the late 90s.

I might be remembered from another MJ thread as being a Michael-hater so surprise, surprise here I come to his defense as a father.

It is my belief that MJ is the real father of all three children, whether he was the biological father or not. A real father is the person that raises the child and it is very clear, even with them being shielded from the press that they were a real family unit.

I get tired of hearing people talk about "real" mothers and "real" fathers when they are talking biology. In an adoptive situation adoptive parents should be referred to as the real parents (i.e. the dedicated party that commits to raising the child) and the biological parents as simply "biological parent". After all, isn't that what you would call Debbie Rowe? I would never call her a real parent.

All three of those children have my sympathies. I hope they are kept away from Joe Jackson, he really seems to be the epitomy of evil.

Joe and LaToya are delusional.
Michael Jackson is not the biological father of any of those children.
(Well said neesie. I'm adopted and hated to be asked about my "real" parents.)

Posted by lindakathy: "Michael Jackson is not the biological father of any of those children."

And you know this how??

1. look at them
2. check out link

Here is a link that might be useful: numerous sources

I agree with angelaid! What fools those 3 (father, Sharpton and Jackson). Anything to keep themselves in the media. They can't even talk and neither can the father. LaToya is another fool. MJ was responsible for his own behavior. It is a sad story and I am sorry he's gone but the fact remains that everyone in that family is strange.

Supposedly the adoption of Blanket was done using a surrogate mother and MJ as the father.

I think you mean conception.
Adoption is a legal process...and it seems that no one can find any legal adoption of any of the children by Michael.

I doubt very much that he is the bio father of any of the children...or the legal parent.

And I shudder to think of how he may have used the two boys.

Michael, unfortunately, went the way of Elvis. Such a shame too. I also believe that he was slowly killing himself with the amount of pain killers he was taking.

I did watch some of the memorial tribute last week. I have to admit that seeing his brothers carry his coffin out made me a little sad. There were several emotional moments.

Rest in peace Michael....you deserve that much.

SamKaren
your resident DJ

Joe Jackson is foul play. He reminds me of the father on Good Times - always angry.

Azzalea, Rebbie is Centipede! lol, that's the only thing I remember her for.

Posted by lindakathy: "1. look at them
2. check out link"

I look at them and they look like MJ. They also look like Rowe. What is your point?

That link goes to a Google search. None of the sites that come up have any real info. Just blogs with speculation. And more blogs disputing the speculation.

Posted by monica_pa: "Supposedly the adoption of Blanket was done using a surrogate mother and MJ as the father.

I think you mean conception.
Adoption is a legal process...and it seems that no one can find any legal adoption of any of the children by Michael."

No. I meant adoption. I am not ignorant. Depending on the law where one resides, when a surrogate is used an adoption takes place to cement the legality and prevent any "biologicals" from popping up out of the woodwork and claiming a child years down the road. According to the news reports, Blanket was legally ADOPTED from out of a surrogate arrangement. Supposedly the surrogate arrangement involved using MJ as the biological father. There was an adoption and there is paperwork to prove it.

Supposedly the surrogate mother who carried the child, was never told who the adoptive parent(s) were whom she was giving up the baby to. It was purely a business decision. As is often the case with surrogates, the birth mother does not meet or know anything about the parent(s) and the adoptive parent(s) do not meet or know the birth mother. This is not always the case of course, things can be worked out differently with a lawyer to make the arrangement palatable to all parties involved. Sometimes visitation with the child is allowed throughout the child's life. It all depends on the paperwork and the arrangements put forth in the documents, and the state/country where the transaction takes place. We have all seen stories in the news where a surrogate or donor has a change of mind last minute and wants to retain legal parentage. With a surrogate birth, sometimes the adoptive mother's eggs are implanted in the surrogate, and sometimes the surrogate's eggs are used. It can get complicated. Donor sperm may come from the adoptive father and maybe not. This is why a legal adoption is necessary for tighten up any "loose ends" that may blow up later. In some states a surrogate has up to a year after the birth to rescind their agreement with the adoptive couple due to how highly emotionally charged situations like this are.

"I doubt very much that he is the bio father of any of the children...or the legal parent."

In both certificates for the children born during their marriage, the father is listed as Michael Jackson. The mother listed is Deborah Rowe. The place of birth for Michael Jr. is Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in L.A. The place of birth for Paris is listed as Spaulding Pain Medical Center in Beverly Hills. This makes them his children legally. No 'ifs' 'ands' or 'buts'. I don't see a court battle in the future. THAT IS THE LAW. He is the legal parent. He does not need any "adoption papers" for Paris and Prince Michael. It is pretty cut and dried.

How would you feel if people started asking to see "your adoption papers" for the children you had, had when you were married?

I'm sure if there were any shenanigans regarding the identity of the children, it would have come up during MJ's and Ms. Rowe's divorce. The courts just don't assign legal custody of children on a whim. If those were kidnapped children without any birth certificates, the divorce court would have ferreted a fact like that out. Unless you believe the judge was bribed?

I shudder to think what would have happened if Lisa Marie, (MJ's first wife.) had had children during their marriage. I can just see all the crazy speculation........"They used Elvis' sperm!" "Lisa had an affair with her Chinese hairdresser! The children look like her hairdresser!"

Posted by zeetera: "Azzalea, Rebbie is Centipede! lol, that's the only thing I remember her for."

I'm surprised anyone remembers 'Centipede'. Rebbie isn't even a "one hit wonder". The song never even broke into the top 20 despite MJ's work on it.

I am not exactly hip but I always knew the names of the Jackson family but turns out I didn't. I have never heard of Rebbie and wondered who the third woman on the stage with the kids was. Is she the youngest?

Probably because I have centipedes around my house.

Remembered it from my teenaged years and put it on my iPod a few years ago.

"Is she the youngest?"

No. She is the oldest of the Jackson clan. She got married shortly after her 18th birthday and started a family a few years later. She is still married.

Here are photos of copies of the birth certificates on file for MJ's and Rowe's children born during their marriage but I guess people will still not believe their own eyes when they see them, and that the judge presiding in the Rowe/Jackson divorce case got bamboozled.

http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0630_jackson_kids_wm.pdf

Here is a link that might be useful: Birth Cert

Centipede: I did a search on ITunes and it's there, catchy tune, sweet voice, outdated of course, it's from 1998.

Centipede was recorded and released in 1984. You may be able to find the music video on YouTube or someplace.

It was re-released on her 1998 album 'Yours Faithfully'. The 1998 version a a remix of the original.

Posted by lily316: "I am not exactly hip but I always knew the names of the Jackson family but turns out I didn't."

Here is some 'name' trivial:

As said before "Rebbie" is Maureen Reillette Jackson.

How many know that "Jackie" is Sigmund Esco Jackson?
Or that "Tito" is Toriano Adaryll Jackson?

Sibling Brandon Jackson died in March 1957.

Joe Jackson needs to realize he IS the foul play.

Trin

Now I'm hearing that LaToya has jumped on the "foul play" bandwagon. I've always felt that she was just a couple of notes short of a symphony. First runner up to Michael in the plastic surgery rebuild.

Heard tonight LaToya is saying murder to the English papers? But they are reporting she was paid for the interview also.
So who knows about her either????

If you read the whole interview, what she is saying philosophical. The media blew it out of proportion. They lifted quotes out of context and used them in headlines.

She is saying that the people around MJ in his camp, used and manipulated him, overprescribed drugs, and worked him to death, much like the situation with Brittany Spears, Judy Garland and other musical child stars who were controlled by their "handlers" their whole life.

She is not saying that there was any planned homicide orchestrated. There was no limo ride through a dark tunnel in a Paris on a Saturday night, with witnesses reporting "explosions" and mysterious automobiles speeding away from the scene. There won't be any books or made for television movies trying to "get to the bottom" of the "mystery".