This old thread got revisited. @dani_m08 to answer the question about extra probe, I believe I ordered an extra one when I bought the set up. The probe wire is just setting in the junction box I think but honestly I cant remember. When I laid out the underfloor heating and the probe, I just ran another probe near the first probe, and it was then sealed into the floor self leveling compound as per instructions. then the end was just threaded into the wall like the one that would be live, and not connected, but just laying there in the box. Regarding the tile layout. I just decided to run it this way, after getting instructions on the 90Degree way, IIRC. The herringbone that I love is from my childhood and the side walks in my neighborhood that all ran at 45Degree. so that to me is herringbone. I know you posted on @sochi thread about her amazing bathroom and a wall mounted faucet. I would totally do it if I had the right sink for it. In my case I had made my sink out of soapstone and an integrated backsplash. The pictures of this bathroom reveal are no longer available because of the use of photo bucket, when it was Gardenweb. I did not keep my account with photo bucket. I'll add some of the reveal pictures so you can see the sink and floor. Regarding the sink there is no ledge for water to drip from my hands when using the faucet. The water drips right into the sink. In my other bathroom with a deck mounted faucet I am always wiping up drips and it is a nuisance. I much prefer the setup for this sink. Below: I love the flush finish from the faucet to the bottom of the sink. nothing drips on a counter or edge of a sink. Below: looking in from the doorway. Below: Here I am finishing up the sink. the backsplash was epoxied on as a separate piece. The whole soapstone install in the room took next to nothing to buy as they were all small pieces that I epoxied together with a 3 part stone epoxy. Below: this is the counter at the tub, and is in 2 long pieces but I was able to epoxy them together at there edges to make a wide slab for the top. All the soapstone was finished with a 60 grit sandpaper to be rough and this lovely soft tone of blue/green/gray/white. I did not oil it so this color tone would remain light. Below: If I recall correctly @sochi helped me decide on this Hubberton Forge Mirror. I have 3 different metals in this room, but they are all a cool silver to black color. Below: the center of this tower shares space with the kitchen on the other side of the wall. there is also some extra space that houses some electrical wiring. this is an old simple house. this bathroom was an add on when it got move to the farm in the 30s IIRC. The plumbing was all rearrange and some of the details that were orignially there I kept but updated it, such as this tower feature. The old one went and the carpenter did a wonderful job with this one. Below: This feature was another thing I kept from the old bathroom but flipped it from the other end and had the carpenter put drawers in it. Before it was a hell hole. things got lost and the build was soooo old and creapy I didn't like using it for storage. Now it is perfect for storage.

I've lost the lttle copy utility I had on my computer If anyone wants o update t he list go ahead

Hello everyone, My name is PAM. I write it in all CAPS as there used to be about five Pam's here and this was an easy way to help differentiate. Not an ego thing, honestly. I hail from central PA. I have been on RP since the mid-1990's and remember the Spike years and being "Disneyed". I visit here regularly but have posted less frequently since I 1) got divorced and 2) started to work full time. But now I am getting back to RP and it feels great to be back "home" amongst friends. George Gissing is my favorite writer and I tend to go on and on about him occasionally. I do enjoy the classics but need to read more of them. As I get older, I find I am spending less time on fluff and more time on the non-fiction and the classics. (Present book club book EXCEPTED... ugh... true crime by Ann Rule.. someone SAVE me, please.) I read almost anything except romance, western and sci-fi. LOVE well-written non-fiction especially micro-histories. I shall definitely be crushed one day by my books. I love to garden but need more time. I enjoy needlework but need more time. And when it comes right down to it... I put away the needlework, let the weeds grow, and pick up a book. I am in three book clubs but often just show up for the wine. (AstroKath... Rosemont Estates is one of my favorites.) My favorite thing about RP is that reading is such a solitary passion (not hobby, PASSION), but here at RP, I can share with like-minded, intelligent, kind, people. Oh, and I am engaged and soon to be married. Life is so good. PAM

I wonder if late 21st-century and early 22nd-century readers/writers will rebel against what they might perceive as the "fantasyheads" of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. It's happened before: The romanticists of the early 19th century rebelled against the classicists of the 18th century. The realists of the late 19th century and early 20th century rebelled against the romanticists. The moderns of the post-WWI era rejected the "sentimental glop" of the Victorians. The postmoderns of the last four(?) decades of the 20th century turned everything upside down, inside out, and crosswise. Yet the classics of all those movements (except the last mentioned, but only because it really hasn't had time) have continued to shine through. What will the next movement be? Post-postmodern, maybe. Is it already in the works? Gee, I hope so because I haven't been very fond of the popular literature of the last few decades, and it saddens me to think that the era of my life will be represented by a lot of incomprehensible, impenetrable (to future readers) experiments. But I guess it's always been thus. Well, no, that can't be true, because we can read the literature of earlier eras and get things out of it that will give us some insight into their times and what made them tick. Can you imagine interpreting our own age with only the fantasy that has been written during it, if the fantasy is what survives? Yikes! And it will probably be the fantasy because historically that's been true -- look at the Arthur legends, mythology, fairy tales and such. So, yes, the Harry Potter and Dr. Seuss books do have a good chance of lasting to 2106. Alice in Wonderland and Peter Pan and all those Oz books have survived the changing tastes of "movements." I haven't read Potter, but I have actively loathed the other childhood fantasies I mentioned (I didn't even like them when I was a kid), but that only means that they are bound to be beloved for a long, long time because my reading taste has never been a good predictor of what will be popular or classic. Personally, I like Mummsie's list of books -- that era of realism is the one I seem to find most congenial.