Can I Safely Fit Bar Stools in Galley Kitchen: 3D layouts
Hi, This is our first post. We are really close to remodeling our kitchen and would greatly appreciate any input on our layout. I have really enjoyed reading many posts on Gardenweb. Our kitchen is modest in comparision to many I have seen, so keep in mind our budget is modest. And since I do video production, I thought: how hard could it be to lay out our kitchen ideas in my animation software? (really time consuming--but fun!) So the 2 big concerns is this remodel are this:
#1 - How Safe is it to put bar stools nearby a 8" step down?
- Don't want to put mounted stools down. But totally open to some swivel system, although we do have young kids. (2yrs and 4yrs old) and concerned over hands/feet getting caught. Any alternatives?
#2 Comments on Door opening width to the LR? Right now it's 5 feet. One rendering shows 4', and the Right shows 3' We have so limited wall space and the house is so 'open' and noise caries so easily thru the house, we figured we wouldn't miss the wide opening too much and need countertop space/storage. Comments?
The renederings show (lighter green/yellow section of the floor) a 15" proposed add-on extension of the kitchen floor, which is 8" higher than the Family Room. So all that would be happening is we would extend 15" of Kitchen floor OVER the existing concrete LR floor.
The total space available is about 37" to maybe 40" or so, as we definitely could slide the island towards the stove a few more inches--BUT CANNOT slide the 4" Support beam (although we can move it parallel to the Island a couple feet either direction). The floor grid is 1 box = 1 foot.
Finally, We don't want to take out the floor too much more just to fit the bar stools...we prefer table height bar stools...(we could go with TALLER bar stools, but we don't like the tallness...and I like the idea of being on the same level--you 'feel' like you are 'in' the kitchen.) Any input is kindly appreciated.
This is the view from our Family Room (sorry for the mess!) The soffit, cabinets have been torn down. Now ready for electrician. (The floor extension would cover maybe half of the small oval rug)
This is the same view as above, just before we tore out the cabinets...gives you an idea of how little countertop area the STOVE side of our 22' Galley kitchen has,
This is the SINK side. We tore out the soffit and the cabinets and do not plan on adding cabinets above the island
Overhead 'flat' view from Cinema 4D program... Note: 1 square = 1 foot. The proposed floor extension would carry the kitchen 15" into the LR and give the bar stools some
safety room. Do we need more? Any thoughts?
Here is the RIGHT view...shows 36" door (which we are leaning towards--any thoughts???)
This shows the proposed added on 15" floor. and a rough idea of the Family Room.(the lighter green area)
Here is a link that might be useful: Flicker pictures of Kitchen (existing and planned)
This post was edited by rdolesh on Mon, Dec 31, 12 at 20:12
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Comments (9)And we found that 35" is fine for one main cook and one who occasionally wants to get by. :) Seriously, since I prep in on one and stove on the other, it's really nice for me to have them close. GWLolo's suggestion for getting more storage in your work area sounds terrific. My drawers under my work counters mean I can do point-of-use storage for everything needed at each counter. Same for all but the most outsized or least-used cookpots under and next to the stove. All right there, including all cooking utensils in a shallow drawer under the cooktop. I have a 12" wide undercounter pullout at my work area that holds my most-used bottled sauces, vinegars, oils, etc., so they don't have to be brought from the pantry. Two lower pullout shelves that fit 3-4 bottles across and a top drawer-type tray for garlic, shallots, many other small items is a lot of storage right there. JPLouis, does your counter cover the stool shown on the end so you have over 5' of work space there? (Nice). If not, I personally would slide the sink down toward the window more. Plus, it'd allow you to work a bit more directly across from the stove. Back-step, pivot, and you're there is a big part of why I like the way mine works. I'm not in and out of my oven frequently, so I'd like it the way you have it. Close but out of the busy area....See MoreGalley kitchen layout advice
Comments (33)Ginny20: yeah, we're pretty sure this is the Gladstone 3315B sears kit house from some time after 1933 but before 1938. I think the odd walled-in space in hall by the chimney (where the box with X is) was designed as a convenient place for the ice box or possibly as a place to showcase an early and probably noisy fridge. Kind of like how we build special places for microwaves these days, I guess. The 50" wide space for the range is crazy, too, right? If that appliance was still there, I'd try to keep it. herbflavor: Yes, I'm pretty sure I could make or find some shelves to surround the chimney and make it blend in to the surround counter/cabinets. Another thing I'm considering (maybe for next year) is building shallow cabinets set into the wall along the passage to the basement steps/side door. The wall is 10" thick, so the cabinets could be built-ins between the studs (other than where the drain pipes are.) I was thinking that would be great storage for cleaning supplies and stuff I'd otherwise put in a mudroom/laundry room if we had one, and maybe some pantry overflow. As for the layout you are suggesting near the chimney, would it be something like this? One thing the house lacks is a fireplace. The chimney was for the furnace in the basement, and originally walled over. I did consider trying to expose the chimney, but the brickwork and mortar is very sloppy on this chimney... it was never meant to be seen.)...See MoreI need help with my tiny galley kitchen layout! Please advise!
Comments (5)I'm not sure about putting a range under the window. That seems like a recipe for goop and splatter on the window, and also seems likely that, assuming you live in an area with winters, your window is liable to crack/shatter with the temperature extremes of hot from the range vs cold outside. I had that happen in my house when I first moved in, actually, and it didn't even have a range under it, just a sink! So, I'd imagine it being a high risk event with a serious heat source under a window. I think it'd be a lot easier to figure out a good layout with the right side of the diagram filled in. Can you repost a diagram showing what is over there? That way, folks can see traffic flow and imagine any options for that end of the area....See MoreKitchen Layout Input Please - Small Galley Picture
Comments (39)rantontoo: I plan to die in this condo - or at the very least age in place absent unforeseen circumstances. I could give a rat's patootie about resale value or what prospective buyers might like - or really anyone else. I care about functionality for my own needs and aesthetics for my own tastes and comfort. Contrary to real estate "wisdom" I am eliminating the tub/shower in the master bath and installing a large shower with a seat. It won't be the largest shower in the world but it's leagues more comfortable and suited to my lifestyle than the tub which requires me to step over and in I am taking out one of the sinks in the master bath and installing a true vanity with a chair/seat. If anyone absolutely needs the use of a sink while I am washing my face, there is a sink in the guest steps away. I've never actually quite understood what kind of prolonged ablutions require one to be directly in front of flowing water :-) I am contemplating not having the paltry upper cabinets start at 18" since I am short. My current uppers are lower than 18" - something I hadn't appreciated until I started researching kitchen design - which makes the second shelf wholly accessible and even the third shelf only requires tip toes for a lot of stuff. I am even wondering whether raising the counter in the bathroom is functional since at its current normal height I have to bend low to splash water on my face which invariably means everything gets splashed. I have no small children to consider so I don't know why height would be an issue....See Moreyoungdeb
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11 years agolast modified: 9 years agoThirdkitchenremodel: Thanks for the pictures!! One question, Are those barstools on the floor? Is there is a step below?(hard to tell)
Thanks to everyone else for all feedback, It really helps. I worked on the design last night and came up with this new layout, which basically moves the island out a tad, but NO floor extension-- My wife is happy with that! It is similar to Thirdkitchen's RIGHT side of their bar. And couldn't agree more about the 'setting your feet on the floor'. To me, it is far more comfortable than bar height in my opinion. I personally, do not like to sit too long at bar height.
With this revision, I believe we are ready to go!
Thanks again to everyone for input!
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