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Comments (1)We used them in our laundry room and bathrooms. Pictures linked below. I have more in Photobucket, but my battery is about to die. I can post more tomorrow. fyi, the bookcases in the lower level hallway are also JB Here is a link that might be useful: Jim Bishop cabinets...See MoreJim Bishop Cabinets anyone?
Comments (7)We have their upper priced cabinetry in the laundry room and bathrooms at our home. Have had no issues with the painted/glazed cabinets, but the stain/glazed in the MBath has a few places worn due to opening drawers with wet hands (DH!) for the past almost 7 years. It's not really noticeable though. We bought just before they added the Blum as part of the Ultimate series... so when we bought the Deluxe was different than now. Ours have the nicer interiors. It was also just before they came out with inset cabinets, so I did not use them in our kitchen. I had our installer cut off the bases and order/stain/paint/glaze furniture style feet in the bathrooms. Master Bath: Laundry: I can't find the other 3 bathrooms in Photobucket, but one is similar to MBath and 2 are similar to Laundry room. One reason Jim Bishop costs less is they do not advertise much - like Kraftmaid, etc. DH and I each have one of the center MBath 3 drawers on our side of closet with a bookcase sitting on top. We also have their bookcases in our lower L shaped hallways. 5 in each hallway. Those are black painted. We had our guy order a few sample doors so I could see in person before ordering. Here is a link that might be useful: House Tour This post was edited by allison0704 on Thu, Apr 4, 13 at 14:36...See MoreCabinet Quote?
Comments (42)TexasGem, of course I would give you a price. :) Anyone who walks through the door would get that. Maybe not right away, as if I'm busy on a current project, that's going to be my priority first and I'd have to get to yours as quickly as I could. But, you have to understand that the price of cabinets is all about context, and unless you know the nomenclature and options of a line well enough to indicate which options that you want attached to those cabinets in your quote, your quote isn't a very good way to judge either the abilities of a KD, or the price of any line you are considering. Instead, consider making an appointment with several KD's. Explain your project to them, and have them guide you into which cabinet line that they feel suits your objectives and budget. Asking for a quote for boxes doesn't let you take advantage of the depth of knowledge that the KD has to make something good even better by taking advantage of the strengths of one line over another. And it does zero to assure you that your design actually works for the space. How am I to know what fillers would be "appropriate" to the space if I'm just quoting you parts? For instance, for your 3 30" drawer bases, is that 3 drawer bases of 4 drawer bases or some other configuration? In my higher end line, you'd have over 1000 choices, without even considering the dozen ways that you could possibly finish off the sides. For the wall oven cabinet, what width oven are you purchasing? How tall are you talking? Is that an actual double wall oven cabinet, or are you talking a MW over a single oven? How tall do you want the bottom oven to be off of the floor? A single drawer below, or a double drawer? A simple shelf cabinet above? Sides finished? How? 42" sink base? Why? That's oversized and inefficient. Sink bases are not very useful, so the smaller you can make them, the more storage you can have elsewhere. Will the sink base be bumped out? Any decorative fluting or posts for the sink? Standard drop in or undermount sink, or farm sink? Tip out trays, etc.? For the 24" uppers, how tall? Single door? Double door? Butt door? When you're asking about glass, there are over 100 choices for mullions, or clear frame, or glass style. Each one is a different cost. Glass shelves or wooden? So, to even give you a quote, I'd have to spend about 15 minutes actually narrowing down the things that you may not have included because you forgot, or had no idea were important. Then, we'd have to narrow it down further because pricing depends entirely on which doorstyle you are in in which line. Kemper has a 1-19 scale to be able to judge sorta how one door is more costly relative to another. That 1 is a partial overlay recessed panel oak door (Danbury), and that 19 is a mitered applied molding maple door with paint and glaze (Warwick). If I were unethical, and lowballing you, I could quote you the Danbury in a stain using 30" H wall cabinets with a single door, a 27"x 84" oven cabinet that will only hold a 24" oven, and triple drawers on those drawer stacks with furniture board construction. ($3000) You might want Danbury with 93" tall oven cabinet that fits a 30" oven and MW (which would be 33"W) and butt doors in that painted, and glazed maple, with all of those 39"H glass (simple open frames with clear glass) and 4 drawer bases, all with plywood boxes. That $8200 represents the other end of the pricing spectrum, and that is in a single line, without even finished sides, because you have to have which sides to finish worked out in the design. So, now I've spent a 45 minutes doing that, for free and typing it up. Good thing it's my lunch, right? :-) BTW, don't assume that a more expensive line would automatically be astronomically more. That same $8200 quote in the Artesia door style, (most expensive group 7) door in Dynasty is only $8600, and all ply is standard with Dynasty, as is finishing off the sides in a plain paint, and if you needed a custom cabinet, there is no charge for reducing the size of a cabinet. You'd pay the same for an 29" drawer base as you would a 30". In the end, Dynasty might be a much better value for a customer, and the quote might actually be cheaper in the end after all of the upgrades for the finishing touches are added....See MoreWhich cabinet line - I can get it at dealer cost :)
Comments (9)Armstrong is builder grade. "Value" is a relative term. Yes, they're "inexpensive" if you're a builder, but if you're anyone else, your vocabulary word is "cheap". Timberlake, not much better than builder grade. Same thing as Shenendoah at Lowes and American Woodmark at Home Depot. Jim Bishop focuses on looks, and sacrifices the specs to achieve it. I don't think they're that long on looks either after a few years, after seeing a 5 year old display at a local shop that looked 15 years old. Kemper is a good medium grade cabinet line, and about the lowest price of those you list that I'd consider. Decora is really nice, but, unless you fall in love with something from them, probably not worth the cost difference between it and Kemper. Canyon Creek is also nice, but if you're going to do it, you might as well do Decora. I'd go see what I fell in love with. It might be different than you imagine in your mind. BTW, no one ever sells at "list" price. Discount off of list for cost depends on the dealer's location and the price of the cabinetry as shipping factors into it. It can vary from 50-70% off of list, depending on the line and the distance from the factory. If you're not getting that, you're not getting "cost". You're getting regular "discount off of list", which is usually 30-40% off of list. Sounds similar. Isn't. The difference is the dealer's margin....See MoreUser
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