Guam2008a is posting like a troll would do!

Cotehele, I LOVE LOVE LOVE your kitchen! Wish I could get a layout as beautiful as yours. It's wonderful. Bmore, I do like the layout you have done. It does seem more functional, and I know that you, Rhome, Lastax, desertsteph, Buehl, Pllog, Roccogirl,and others who I can't remember to acknowledge right now, have ALWAYS seen the fridge best at the end of that wall where the range is. If there was ANY way to do it, that is what we would do. I guess I could hash it out with DH again, I've tried to convince him, but the whole point was to keep my current cabinets and since they are all one piece, he says it would destroy them to try and cut them and reuse. So, then we are looking at thousands more for cabinets that we really don't need to replace. There is also a fireplace chimney behind those uppers which he said he didn't know if he could get a vent through where it needs to go for the hood. All that being said, the gas has been run, and the potfiller set with water to it, where it is placed in the plan as it is now. So, convincing him to redo it, well, bless his heart, he would. The other option is this.... the range sits with a planned 9"spice cabinet to the left, and 36" more to the end of the wall for cabinets which I planned to put drawers. From the 9" spice cabinet to the back wall, there is 15 1/2 feet. So, my question would be, if we built the wall out (range wall) another two feet to accomodate fridge, would that crowd the dining area too much? Felixnot, don't worry about sounding harsh! I'm here to take constructive criticism and advice so all is welcome! We had entertained your idea early on, and, well, quite frankly, I can't remember why it didn't go. :) Rhome, it seems more disjointed? I guess what I saw was entering the pantry area from where the fridge and oven was more convenient, access to dining area, kitchen, it seemed to flow in to the kitchen rather than going around to get to the pantry area. hmmm. And the oven and refrigerator were at the end, so the pantry seemed out of the way. I could put one of those cool "secret doors" if that would help any. :) Tell me honestly... Would you nix the entire idea of having that large of a pantry? It's just such WASTED space! I can't figure what to do with it! DANG! But thanks for taking me through this, over and over and over!

I have them and love them. But I'm not going to convince you to get them. That's because there's no right or wrong. It all boils down to style. The ultimate reason why you'd want them should be determined by how you value your back splash. Some people want the back splash "pristine." Others don't care. For those who fall in the former, they love them because it keeps the BS "clean" looking. As far as cords hanging down, we only keep the coffee maker plugged in all the time. It's 15" tall, so not much of the cord is visible. Therefore, it's not an issue. When I was thinking all this through, my solution to the hanging cord was to change the color of the visible cord, if that became an issue. There are wire jackets or sheaths that come in various colors. Of course color matching by paint would probably be easiest and most accurate way to disguise cords. Fortunately for us, the hanging cords when plugged in don't bother us at all, because it's temporary. The other reason I love them is that I have more sockets available across my work surface. I rarely if ever have cords running across my counter. From mixer to blender to food processor to laptop to portable DVD player to battery charger to cordless phone, none of the cords get tangled or crossed when plugged in, because no two cords lead to the same point. There's always a socket closer to the point of use. I just remembered, the cordless handset is the other thing we plug in all the time. The wire is thin and gray, so it's not really noticeable. So I wouldn't sweat it. If you want it, you want it. If you don't, you don't. It's not going to be the end of the world either way.

I very much appreciate these suggestions. You all are really helping me fine-tune this design. Do my responses below seem like good reasons to stick with my plan above? I would consider moving the DW to the end of the peninsula This would work for an average household, but as a homeschooling mother of six, I make three home-cooked meals a day. The DW is run after every meal, and a lot of it consists of pots and pans that need to be soaked before going in. you could eliminate the door on the small corner cabinet I did play with this idea, but I am concerned about the trays and cutting boards inside getting splattered from food dribbling down from the prep area above or from loading the dishwasher next to it. It is much easier to wipe down a door than to wash all the contents inside. Whatever you choose, you must have a filler on the left side. This is why the 6" cab seems better to me. It will ensure that I have standard filler size and that the counter doesn't have to touch the slider trim. I know you are looking into the blind base for the sink - I would still opt for the 30" sink base and 36" lazy susan - I think that will be a much better storage option. If I want to have my trash in a base, the only place I see room for it is under the sink, and the only way for it to fit there is if I move my large water filtration system into the corner with this blind cabinet. Though blind cabs are typically terrible storage options, used this way, this blind frees up drawer storage elsewhere that might have been eaten up with a trash pull-out. I also get very useful storage with the 18" drawer base to the right of the stove that I wouldn't get if a susan is in the corner. a corner base with adjustable staggered shelving I'd seriously consider it if a 36" one fit in either corner, but the openings on the 33" corner bases are so narrow that they are difficult to get things out and even see what is in there. Thank you!