Deep drawer with shallow drawer nested inside it
justmakeit
11 years ago
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15' front-to-back too shallow for Pantry Drawer??
Comments (9)Thanks all -- I'm sold .. NO DRAWERS for the 15" deep section -- I'll go w/ shelves there and put the drawers in the small part of the L (the one w/ 24" front to back). next question ... what about the Door Heights in front of the shelves? We have to have doors as the pantry is a thorough-fair between our family room and the kitchen .. so we can't just have all our food showing. Our ceilings are 12' high ..but the walk-through is only 6 feet wide ..so anything too tall will look silly. We are planning to have about 8 feet of shelves (height wise) but not sure how to break that down in terms of how high to get each cabinet door... So assume we have 90" of horizontal space and say around 8 feet high. Should we break that down into 3 x 30" wide cabinets each w/ 2 doors? If so ..how about the height of each cabinet? Should we have the base cabinet the normal counter height 34" or so and then the top cabinet really tall? THESE are the cabinets we're REPLACING . it looks like a walk in now -- but we've broken down the wall on the right hand side and removed the door. My question is when I basically rebuild those shelves on the LEFT .. and put doors in front of them ... I'll have Left to Right 3 sets of 30" wide cabinets. How do I configure them TOP TO BOTTOM ... do I have a 34" high base cabinet and then a 46" high upper? given the narrow space worried that a really tall upper will look weird....See MoreHelp - Need Shallow in-Drawer Compost Pan/Bin!
Comments (8)That link to the original thread is old, so I'll ask this here instead: I'm DEFINITELY planning to have my compost in a steam pan in a drawer. I can't stand having it on the counter (currently), and I don't want in in a cabinet either. My original plan was to have a cut-out in the counter where it can just fall right in, and then I can open the drawer and carry the pan outside. Originally I was going to use a Bain Marie in the counter, but that will fill up too quickly - I need a large pan. My question is, is it worth having the hole in the counter or is it just better to open the drawer and brush it in? My theory was that with the hole it would have better airflow and less smell. We use an old Blue Bunny ice cream container right now, but my Aunt had given us a compost pail with a lid - that thing STANK to HIGH HEAVEN! Much less smell with air flow. If this cabinet goes along the wall then the only benefit to the hole is airflow, however since I might be able to reuse an old cabinet in the new island that means that two people can work at that counter - one person next to the sink, the other on the family room side (where the drawer would face). That means that the person on the sink side can just push stuff into the hole rather than opening the drawer on the other side. From the end of the sink to the cabinet face is only 25" (the depth of the cabinet / counter - the side of the cabinet will be next to the sink and have a towel bar), so if the person was cutting next to the sink they'd only have to take one step to reach the drawer on the other side. So, is having a hole in a counter a convenience or does it get in the way because you have to work around it? If I put in a hole I will not use a lid on the pan; if I don't put in a hole I will definitely put a lid on the pan. Thanks....See More6 3/4" "deep" drawer depth too shallow?
Comments (11)Salex, I knew I recognized your name. I believe you commented on one of my earlier posts about building cabinets yourself. When we first moved in we were just going to add an island and DH was going to build it, which I was fine with but we've had some big changes since then. He was laid off suddenly shortly after we bought the house and I had to go back to work (the timing worked out as my son just entered kindergarten).. He did find more work and we are much better off then we were before with me working as well, however our kitchen is extremely dysfunctional and he doesn't help with any cooking or cleaning. Working and trying to hand wash dishes for my family and deal with the wonky space with no storage and I am at the end of my rope. I do not have patience for DIY right now when it comes to this major source of angst in my life. There are so many things in our house that he could work on and build for and I would welcome everyone one of them but I just can't get excited about him doing the kitchen. I think he has most of the tools you mentioned but does not have a good source of wood. He also really isn't "in practice" with woodworking. He knows it, but hasn't honestly done much in the 10 years we've been married (think he did more when he was younger) so I'm not confident in him doing this. I do think he's capable of figuring it out, I just don't know what we'll have to go through to get to the end result. I think I'm about to find out though. He's insistent on doing it and as much as I am against it I can't just go drop $8K on cabinets if he's not in agreement with me. I thought I'd gotten him open to at least considering buying if I found something decent at a decent price but I guess not. I'm sorry, I'm feeling very disappointed right now. I'm not ready for this journey. Thank you for the link about the drawer in a drawer, I'll check it out!...See MoreShallow side walls for deep kitchen drawers ok?
Comments (12)Wow, I had a super busy night and I wake up to so many helpful comments! Thank you all so much. There are so many decisions to make and it’s impossible to do it in a vacuum and think of all the possible repercussions. Wilson853, your drawer-within-a-drawer was my inspiration! I have many of the same pyrex and corningware and your organization of them made a lot of sense! I don’t like having to stack glass items stacked much, and they are heavy to boot. I know I do want at least one drawer for that. I was trying to decide between my 24” or 30” cabinet. Both are int the area I plan to keep that stuff. I think everything I want would fit in the 24” and a shorter width would probably be best for heavy glass stuff. Buehl, the first thing I worried about when he suggested they all be low was things like skillet handles getting caught, then realized we have a frameless cabinet so that wouldn’t happen, but I wasn’t thinking about the fact that it could get caught going back in and ding things up too. That would probably be a very convincing argument for DH since he’s going to be protective of his work! raee_gw zone 5b-6a Ohio, yes it would be possible to lower then later I’m sure, but he is not going to appreciate me saying so! Lol artistsharonva, low sides with a high drawer front (these will be 12”) did seem like it would look weird to me. I do know that if you really want to pack a drawer then you’d want high sides, but I am trying to avoid too full, cluttered drawers too. I’m trying like mad to exactly envision where I want everything but I’m reaching the end of my imagination and just wanting some flexibility so I can make changes if something doesn’t work exactly how I’d like, or our needs change later. I do think a drawer insert sounds like more of a nuisance than a hidden drawer because you’d have to lift out to see under it. We’ve purchased the Blum full-extension, soft-close undermount slides (the Tandem with blue motion) so we’re all set there! We have already purchased the wood for the drawer boxes, based on doing full sides, so we wouldn’t save money there but I do think with DH some of it is that it’s a lot of work to set his routers up and get them exactly correct, so if everything is the same height then that lowers not only the amount of work he has to do, but also the likelihood of error. So for him its weighing that along with what would truly work best. Sushipup1 - thanks for weighing in, it is easy to imagine all the problems but its good to be reminded that lots of times you just don’t have issues in real life! Skmom - he did an awesome job! I love seeing pictures of how drawers are organized, it is so helpful! I’ll bet one of the reasons you decided to go for full height is that he did inset drawers with face frames. My first concern with low sides was something getting stuck, but them remembered that we are doing full-overlay, frameless cabinets so there would be nothing to get stuck too, except ,as I realized with Buehl’s comment, going back in the cabinet. I’m still a little undecided at this point, you’ve all given me a lot to digest, but I’m leaning towards doing my two larger cabinets that will house the pots, pans, dishes, drinking glasses with full-height sides and doing lower sides on my other three cabinets that house the less frequently used stuff that is also of an odder range of sizes, that way if I find that I’m wasting a lot of drawer space for some things we can add a hidden drawer. As long as the back is low enough its also possible to put a drawer inside the larger drawer, but you’d have less usable drawer space and I’m not sure if you’d benefit from the high sides if the back is low. The lowest side is always going to dictate how full it could be filled....See Moredesertsteph
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