steam from coffee maker under cabinets?
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Comments (5)You can find the parts you need at any local hardware store and they are relatively cheap. Parts You need: 2ea. 1/4" compression needle line stop valve 1ea. 1/4" compreesion Tee 1/4" copper tube to make the additional lines. Tools you will need: Tubing cutter to cut the copper. (I prefer a mini cutter for 1/4") Two wrenches that fit the valves..(two 8" adjustable wrenches would do fine) Cut the pipe where you want the tee to the first appliance. Remove an and cap off the tee but be careful, there is a tiny brass ferrule under that cap that you need. First slip the cap on the copper with the open side of the cap pointing towards the cut end of the copper tubing. Now slip the ferrule on the tubing. (the ferrule looks like a miniature mans wedding ring). Insert the end of the pipe into the fitting as far as it will go, then slide the cap forward, pushing the ferrule up against the end of the fitting and screw the cap on the end of the fitting finger tight. Now hold the fitting steady with one wrench while you tighten the cap with the second wrench. Follow the diagram in the illustration I am attaching and use the same technique to tighten all the fitting caps....See MoreHELP! My cabinet maker has my $15K and went under!
Comments (10)MrsAndrews: I did exactly as you did and fell for the cash discount line, too. I also contracted in January seeing that he had a "busy" schedule on a large calendar on the wall. I did get some version of shoddy cabinets that just left me in one nasty, nasty court battle. I also learned that even after a court case and winning, I got nothing but a fictitious lien on our property removed. WHY did I get nothing, because they were incorporated and the guy changed his business name. The judge told me that I would have to hire someone to prove that he moved assets from one business to the other and it would be a waste of time in this case. Add to your lessons learned list above: 3)NEVER do business with anyone that is not big enough to afford to lose in court and damage their business name. (Unfortunately, in the state of Florida there is no one regulating the outrageous cabinet business. I believe if you give a business a certain amount of money, then they should be regulated.)...See Moresteam damage to cabinets from steam oven or warming drawer?
Comments (7)Some of it depends on your cabinets and how they're finished. If they're veneered, you'd have more cause for concern. You might want to find out from your cabinetmaker. I don't cook daily, but if you call my five years with a steam oven one year of heavy use, I'll say there's a little concern, but a kitchen is a living place and there will be some wear. Like door dings at the supermarket. :) The only place where the finish on my cabinets is damaged is on one of the doors under the cleanup sink. I always wipe up when there are drips, but I have some alligator tooth pale spots where someone obviously allowed it to stay wet for a long time. This is bamboo, btw, which is a laminated product where the surfaces are thick. The second greatest damage to the finish is on the fridge and freezer where hands tend to hold the doors rather than the handles. It's just a clear varnish type of finish, which is supposed to be very hardy, but that's a lot of friction. Over the steam oven (Gaggenau)--I don't often use the reduce steam function which condenses it so plenty of plumes escape--if I feel carefully, the grain is raised slightly in the frame around the oven, but barely at all if any on the cabinet door an inch above the top of the oven. BTW, I also get plumes of steam from the regular oven. My warming drawer is a simple mechanical one, but does have steam vents, which are usually in the open position. They let out the bottom, and all along the top of the inside of the front panel, where steam could get at the whole interior frame, plus out to the surrounding cabinets, but hasn't. I had one unfortunate incident though. I read that one could dehydrate in a warming drawer that was left slightly open. Not a good outcome, but the prolonged steam exposure from having it actually open and drying fruit did raise the grain on the drawer above. Mind you, you can't see that the grain is raised on either side (ovens and WD on opposite sides of kitchen). You can feel it. And only by feeling how smooth the rest is, can you tell it's altered. There is absolutely no delamination, but that's factory done, etc., and a thin veneer heat glued to MDF or something will be more delicate. My conclusion is that if you can afford a steam oven, you probably have good enough cabinets that they can survive it. :)...See MoreMax height to place Miele built in coffee maker?
Comments (15)Judy, We ended up changing things around. We lowered the XXL steam oven so that it ended at 42" AFF, allowing us to put a full size drawer below it and started the coffee maker at 42", ending at 60". This allowed us to put a very usable cabinet above the coffee maker with two sliders so that we could reach the back of what would now be a 24" deep cabinet. As with everything it is trade-offs. I think if there were no other considerations at all the ideal height is more or less 42" to 60" and my thought was that bending a bit to use the oven was worth having the coffee maker easily accessible and in optimal location. Having said that, I think ending it at 6' is perfectly fine and if we had gone w/ the regular 18" size oven I am sure we would have done that. Once we went to 24", cabinet wise, it was much easier to either do one full size cabinet below (ending coffee maker at 5') or to keep the oven at counter height and end the coffee maker at 6'-6", which by all accounts was too high. In between was problematic....See Morezeebee
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