pantry pests - ISO airtight food storage jars

13 years ago

I donÂt know if this is the right place to post this or not, but we just discovered pantry pests on Monday. DH opened a plastic baggie of barley from WF and discovered teeny tiny little dark bugs. They look like tiny black specks, like on tortilla chips, but they move. We started opening more packages of food and found multiple infected items. They were inside unopened cardboard boxes of food, under cans, etc. We tossed all open food packages and anything unopened that wasnÂt airtight (like bags of dried beans that were in thin plastic packaging with tiny holes). We also threw out all cardboard boxes and washed the outsides of the interior sealed plastic packages (like sleeves of crackers or bags of cereal) by submerging in a sink of hot, soapy water. We removed all paper labels from cans because we saw a few of the bugs under a couple labels we tested. All the cans were washed in the sink and then labeled with a sharpie.

DH vacuumed the pantry and washed the shelves with a bleach solution. He also sprayed bug spray in there. We are going to wait a few more days before reloading the pantry. All of the food we salvaged and washed is sitting on the kitchen counter now. From now on, we plan to store all non-canned pantry food in sealed glass or plastic containers. No more cardboard boxes or WF baggies for us!

The day before we discovered the infestation, we were at Ikea and saw really pretty frosted glass jars from the Droppar collection. We talked about storing grains and legumes in those containers because it would make for very attractive pantry shelves. I am now concerned about that plan because I am not sure if those containers are air tight. Has anyone here used Droppar for food storage? The Container Store has some nice looking square glass jars with brushed aluminum lids with silicone gaskets, but they are pretty pricey.

Please share what you use for airtight containers for food storage.

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friedajune

13 years ago

For me, it is very important that my airtight containers be BPA-free and PVC-free. I really don't want PVC's and polycarbonates to contain the food I am going to eat. The easiest solution is glass, though it is hard to find airtight glass storage. The Container Store has "Hermetic Storage Jars" which are glass and come in various sizes, and are wonderful. The only negatives to them is that the mouths aren't very wide (hard to put measuring cups in there if you are storing e.g. sugar, flour), and you can't put them in the dishwasher cause it will ruin the seal.

I also like the Oxo Pop containers mentioned by Plllog, though one I have has had a problem with the "Pop" - sometimes I can't get it open! I also like Lock n Lock containers which are sold at Sears, Amazon, BB&B, and several other places. I read somewhere that there are a few of the Lock n Locks that are not BPA free, but I haven't seen them. Just make sure the container doesn't have the word "polycarbonate" in the description. You also don't want the little recycle number on the bottom of the container to be 3, 6 or 7. I am not sure if Tupperware or ClickClacks are BPA free, though I seem to recall reading somewhere that Tupperware is NOT BPA free.

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puppeez
13 years ago
I've been using OXO Pop containers....so far they seem to be working.
plllog
13 years ago
I prefer pressure seals for airtight storage rather than just gaskets. I've been using ClickClacks for years, the round ones with the pressure seals. They're very tight. I packed them up for my remodel because I thought it would be just a few months. It was more like a year. Anything that had a good sized airspace in it had horribly stale air. It was quite clear that there was not even a little air exchange during that time (the air in the box was normal).

The old ClickClacks also had a ridge under the lid that made them that much tighter. I think they still make those. They're the type you could see on Star Trek. :) The newer ones seem to be securely tight, however, and so do the OXO ones. I like the seal better on the ClickClacks, but the OXO ones come in squared shapes, and have a pop-up big button on top, instead of a pinch, which is better for people with hand strength or use issues.

These are all just clear plastic containers with white lids. Not ugly, but not pretty like the glass ones you were looking at. But they also don't break when you knock them off the shelf.

The bugs probably came into your kitchen in some package and hatched. How icky! And what a mess to deal with! I once had some spice beetles, so I tend to put all new boxes (pasta or whatever) into individual ziplocks. That seems to work well enough. All my staples go in the airtights.
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Linda Gomez
13 years ago
Also check your spices--they seem to like the Hungarian paprika & poultry seasoning. You may see some web-like fibers when you open your spices. Check them ALL.

Now, when I buy corn meal, whole wheat flour, or spices, I put them in the freezer for 24 hours to make sure if there are any eggs or critters they won't hatch or continue to cycle in my house.

I also put bay leaves in each of the drawers/shelves.

It took a couple of cycles of cleaning every thing out to rid ourselves of the little critters. I prefer the Tupperware containers to keep them out. I went so far as to re-package our breakfast cereal in Tupperware.
plllog
13 years ago
Good point! Even the tiny plastic canisters shouldn't be mistaken for dishes or containers for leftovers. They do not go in the microwave or dishwasher, though they're all easy to disassemble and hand wash.

Besides BPA, you should also be careful with phthalates and styrenes. Most Tupperware is #4 or #5, but some of it is the bad kind.

The ClickClacks with the ridge, as I've just learned online, are "Stack & Seal" and the other ones are "Accents". This is what their website says about FDA compliance:

Yes [they're compliant] - for all food contact surfaces [I think that may mean not including the colored buttons], materials comply with FDA 21 CFE 177.1520 (olefin polymers) including cc 3.1 for food contact application (polyethylene), 21 CFR 178.1580 (polycarbonate polymers) for food contact applications at up to 100Â°C.

OXO Pops are BPA-free with silicone gaskets. ClickClacks won't have the kind of problem Akchicago had with the Pop because you just squeeze the buttons which lever the domed inner lid downward just enough to loosen the seal, whereas the Pops have to have some kind of spring. Pops take less hand strength to operate and disassemble.
twosit
13 years ago
I'm going to be following this thread very closely. I have experienced those darn little bugs and they are miserable. I will never forget when I irst realized those black dots were moving bugs! EWWWWWWWWWW! They even got in my Knorr's boullion cubes. Now I am kind of psycho putting EVERYTHING in zip lock bags of various sizes. I have been looking in the stores for containers myself.
melaska
13 years ago
I was cured of getting anything in the health food store bins when I brought home some lovely bigger bugs that I didn't even notice until I wanted to use it, uck! I do the freezer thing as well.

I'm wondering - are the glass & plastic Snapware containers air tight?
plllog
13 years ago
Melaska,

I don't know the product, so am confused by what it says on the website, but it looks like most of Snapware's products are airtight. But there's airtight and airtight. For keeping out bugs, just about any containers should be adequate. For truly tight for freshness, I prefer a soft seal, which is a pressure seal like the ClickClacks or a locked seal like Tupperware. The old fashioned wire latch jars too, I guess, if the rubber ring is fresh. I have some decorative canisters (and have looked closely at many others) with just the silicone ring around the stopper and the fit just isn't as tight.

For most uses, I don't think you could tell the difference between my favorites and the Snapware, though.
daki
13 years ago
After ending up with some sort of rice weevil infestation, I also switched to storing things in airtight containers. I do have a couple of the oxo containers and a few click clacks, but I like the look and feel of glass. Plus they are easy to stick in the dishwasher :). I ended up buying a number of glass canning style jars with bail lids in various different sizes.

Here is a link that might be useful: glass storage jars
bmorepanic
13 years ago
What is the freezer thing? Just toss in for a day or two?
holligator
13 years ago
In Florida, bugs can be a huge problem, and we've found that most so-called airtight containers really aren't. It's also not just a matter of bugs getting into containers. A bigger problem is eggs already in something being able to hatch bugs inside the container. Rubbermaid products are notoriously not airtight enough to prevent this problem.

Tupperware products, when sealed properly are truly airtight. We have had all our pantry items in Tupperware Modular Mates for about ten years and haven't encountered a single bug since then. Most Tupperware products are BPA-free.

This is just about food storage. Heating anything in any kind of plastic container is a bad idea.
sandca
13 years ago
I feel your pain. I had an infestation about 20-25 years ago. Since then all dry staples are stored in plastic or glass containers. Since everything is in cupboards I don't really care what the containers look like. I use recycled 2l,1l. 500ml peanut butter jars and the 750ml sealer jars that Classico spaghetti sauce comes in. I have a few large 15c pourable plastic containers that I use for cereal, flour etc. Since my kids are grown and I don't have to worry about glass breakage, I have been thinking about switching everything back to my canning jars.
growlery
13 years ago
I use the Ikea glass bail jars. They have a silicone gasket. Some jars fit more airtight than others (if they're very hard to snap closed in the store, take those!) but even the looser ones should be bugproof.

Occasionally the bail gets loose or falls out, and I pinch it back into place.

The clear glass makes it easy to see if anything is going on, all the way through the contents.

They come in 3 sizes and a spaghetti jar. They're not as expensive as some others -- 3-5 dollars, though that does add up. But so does buying boxes and boxes of baggies, and plastic containers, which I don't buy. (OK, I have a couple.)

I use them for everything -- cereal, pasta, snacks, grains, sugar & salt. As I use up what's in the jar, I move down to a smaller size. I have some open shelves, and I like the way things look on them. I think the shape of the Ikea jar is really simple and beautiful too.

As for spices -- spices are meant to be used up fast. They're not meant to be collected. Take my word for this. If you can buy spices in bulk and just buy a teaspoon of something for that recipe, do it. Spices lose their flavor quickly anyway.
kaysd
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13 years ago
Thank you all for the ideas. We are going to start freezing flour and similar dry goods for a few days before putting in the pantry in well sealed containers. I would just store them in the freezer if I could, but we are always short on freezer space thanks to Costco. Speaking of which, I plan to buy a Costco size bag of bay leaves and use them generously around our stored food.

We do watch out for phthalates, pvc and bpa in plastics (I'll add styrenes to the list). That is part of why glass containers appeal to me, as well as the aesthetics. Of course, glass containers are tricky with a 2 year old in the house! We are going to run around to Ikea and The Container Store and wherever else I can think of to look at the available options. Maybe we will do a few really pretty glass jars with frequently used items like lentils and rice on the counters, and do a mix of glass and plastic containers in the pantry. I love the pantry pictures that show all the dry foods lined up in matching glass jars, but I should probably get over that fantasy.

We have started checking the spices (which were in a different location), and there is no evidence of pests so far. We are bad about collecting spices. I'll buy something like juniper berries or cumin for a particular recipe, and then not want it again for a long time. We probably have 40 jars of various dried herbs and spices and another dozen of seasoning salts and seasoning blends (most of which we were given and don't use because we like to mix our own seasonings).
krabbypatty
13 years ago
Bummer. I'm sorry this happened to you by thank you for posting kaysd. I've been there but have started slacking and this is a good reminder to stay vigilant.

Just wanted to warn those of you who trust the ziploc bags that I have seen the little biggers chew tiny holes through those too!
jakkom
13 years ago
I freeze all flours and certain spices for 3 days. Haven't had a bug infestation since I started doing that, and I don't have to repackage anything into other containers.
User
13 years ago
Nothing I buy stays in paper or cardboard except crackers because they are eaten within w week or so.

I use glass jars for spices and small quantities of grains, such as kasha - mostly old jelly jars, or fruit jars. Cereal stuff goes into plastic boxes I can pour from. Flour is in huge glass jars on the countertop. Dried fruit is in baggies, in a large plastic container.
sadie709
13 years ago
I freeze my bird's seed too,, in addition to the flour and other grain products. I heard it took 48 hours to kill everything. Everything goes in containers. I keep the flour,cornmeal, cereal and crackers in the fridge.
shannonplus2
13 years ago
Just regarding Tupperware and BPA - if you look at the link that Holligator provided above, but then read down to its comments section, evidently there is conflicting information about whether Tupperware - or which Tupperware -is BPA Free or not. Just the fact alone that it's confusing and contradictory makes me want to avoid Tupperware. Especially since there are other choices out there that definitively state that they are BPA free. The Oxo Pop containers already mentioned, and of course glass. Also, the last time I was in The Container Store, I was impressed that in the storage section of the store, their shelf labels specifically cited which ones were BPA free.

I like the glass canisters with the old-fashioned ball closures. I don't mind hand-washing them to preserve the seal. However, I do have my flour in a large glass container that does not have that kind of closure because I wanted a really wide mouth on the jar to "dip and sweep" my measuring cup. It's not super airtight, but it seems tight enough, and I haven't had a problem. It's made by Anchor Hocking, and it's called the "Montana" jar. Anchor Hocking products are made in the USA, which I prefer. The Montana jar comes in several sizes. I bought mine at Target with a black lid, but I saw that on Amazon the Montana jars are offered with different lid finishes so you can match your kitchen decor.

Here is a link that might be useful: Montana Jars - Not Super Airtight, but pretty tight
growlery
13 years ago
Meal moth larvae can definitely chew through plastic bags.

And I would not rely on a threaded lid jar to keep air or pests out. Though reusing jars gets points for thrift and eco friendliness, and clear glass makes it easy to see if you have pests inside. So they are good for some items you use quickly. I use some.

I think it's like everything else -- buy what you need, then things don't hang around and you don't get so many pests. Whenever I have problem it's not with food I'm eating, it's a half a package of something I forgot about and should have thrown out months ago. We all have too much stuff.
dretutz
13 years ago
Having suffered through three bad infestations of pantry pests, I learned to keep the little pantry pest glue tents in all dry good cupboards because if those larvae come home in a cracker box, they can migrate around and cause havoc. I also keep flour in the freezer. Period. In airtight containers. The pests don't go for sugar, but are partial to nuts. So I am vigilant but those tents with glue inside and pantry pest bait really keep me on top of the issue. If I trap one,I know there are a million lurking. Good luck
Laurie
13 years ago
I like these sturdy air tight glass jars from The Container Store. They also sell replacement gaskets if you ever need them.
-Laurie

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