Mud Set vs. Thin Set
judi82
13 years ago
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13 years agojudi82
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Pros: Advice on waterproofing and mud set shower walls?
Comments (0)I am remodeling a bathroom and I want the shower to be flush with the drywall so a chair rail can run all the way through it. A tile guy wants to do a mud set right on the studs. Is this possible in the 1/2" thickness of the drywall so it can be flush? He would put tar paper then the lath, scratch coat and mud. It would have a vinyl pan (he says that is easier to do with mud walls vs hardibacker) and he said he would put Redguard on the walls up to about 3 ft off the shower floor for extra waterproofing protection. Would that create a "moisture sandwich" with the tar paper as I have read about, or is it OK if the redguard doesn't go all the way up the walls? I find the whole distinction between vapor barrier/moisture barrier/waterproof confusing. Also, are mud set walls worse for efflorescence stains on the grout than hardibacker with redguard on top? Thanks!...See Moremud job vs. kerdi
Comments (3)If he does mud walls, is something else needed though (on top), besides the paper behind it? No, just as with a thinset installation, all that's needed is the vapor barrier, which is what the tar paper is. This where the advantage of the Kerdi comes in. WIth a standard mud or thinset installation, the sub surface still gets wet. With Kerdi, being that it's a waterproofing membrane that sits on top of the mud of cement board, the only thing that gets wet is the tile and grout. And by a conventional pan on the bottom, do you mean doing a mud preslope, membrane, then mud again?, then thinset and floor tiles? Do I have this out of order or is there some other layer that needs to happen in there? no, you've got it right. OR, we could see just how good a mud mechanic he is, and see if he'll set and grout it the same time as he floats it the second time! :-) That's a TRUE (monolithic) mud job. *stirrin the pot* I got to proof reading this, and I had to add this disclaimer-- If he's doing thinset over the mud, that's the normal way it's done today, and there's nothing wrong with it, so don't get scared if he brings in the bags of thinset!! :-)...See MoreWhite marble tile on top of dark gray thin set...help
Comments (3)I don't think the color is a problem as your thinset should cover the color of what's under it. BUT ... metal mesh? It requires a thick (1.5" mud bed). Since you initially confused what he used with thin set, I'm guessing that you've got what's called a "scratch coat" with your lath. That's a big no-no..... If you're not doing the mud bed then the alternative is Ditra, not scratch and mesh. I'd try posting over on bathrooms and asking Bill V or Mongo to weigh in since they're the tile experts. I know just enough to be dangerous. :) Good luck!...See MoreStainless steel vs. anodized -- buying first set, need advice
Comments (3)I own both anodized and stainless (high end) cookware. I prefer to use the anodized because, well, it performs better. Why is that? Aluminum simply conducts heat better than stainless steel. Manufacturers of SS cookware will either sandwich a thin sheet of aluminum between two sheets of SS ("clad" or "Tri-ply"), or bond a thicker sheet of aluminum to the bottom of the cookware, in order to get the benefits of aluminum with the aesthetics of SS. These processes vastly improve the performance of the SS cookware, but solid aluminum will always provide superior heating properties. And, that's why anodized is becoming the "rage". Purists and those that know and understand these properties prefer the performance of anodized. But most of today's stainless steel cookware can boast very good performance characteristics, and for those who prefer the aesthetics of SS, are a good choice. If you love the look and feel of stainless, go for it. Both sets you're looking at should perform well. But it will be in YOUR kitchen, YOU will have to look at it, YOU will have to use it every day. Easy, huh?...See Morebill_vincent
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