Does 2 cm quartz countertop require plywood substrate?
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Comments (7)I agree with you. I like 2 cm and I believe I read where 2 cm is more popular on the West Coast and in Europe and 3 Cm elsewhere. But you know how trends change. We're in Texas so go figure, LOL. Bottom line, I got 2 cm with straight edge for my bathroom vanity which was quartz very similar to the picture you posted and plan to get it for my kitchen. I always like the simpler look when it makes sense . I purchased it from an "entrepreneur", i.e. a young kid who was referred by my contractor. He came to the house and didn't even have a full set of samples to show me but I already knew what I wanted. But guess he may not have been so locked in with the mainstream big box stores or whatever that he couldn't give the customer what they wanted. He gave me a good price too. Good luck. p.s. the brand of quartz is Silestone This post was edited by elphaba on Thu, Sep 26, 13 at 16:52...See More3 CM Quartz Countertop to replace 4 CM Laminate Countertop
Comments (21)You do not need to stack two 2cm slabs on top of each other to make it look like you are using 4cm thick slabs. You only need a small amount of extra material (1-2â inches depending on edge type) to beef up just the outside edges of the counters. Laminated or mitered edges are very common here in So. Cal., where most stone and quartz is sold in 2cm size, rather than 3cm. The fabricator will put a 5/8â thick plywood subtop that is a little narrower than the finished counter size on top of the cabinet. Then the 2cm slab counter is put on top of the plywood. A narrow strip of the quartz is attached just at the edge of the counter to hide the edge of the plywood and make the whole counter look thicker. For standard 24â deep cabinets, the finished counter width with overhang is typically 25.5.â I donâÂÂt know what brand of quartz you plan to buy, but Caesarstone slabs are 56.5â wide, Hanstone is 55â wide, Silestone is 54âÂÂ, Cambria is 55.â (Some brands sell wider âÂÂjumboâ slabs if you have deeper counters.) Assuming a 55â wide slab, two 25.5â deep counters will use up 51â (plus a small amount of loss in the cutting process), leaving the few inches you need for the edge strips. You should need the same number of slabs whether you use 2cm or 3cm material. The thinner material will cost less, which should offset the increased labor cost for the laminated or mitered edge. I am going to try to attach pictures that show the different types of edges....See MoreInstalling 2 cm quartz over existing tile countertops?
Comments (5)Thanks for the picture. I think that's probably pretty close to what it would look like. It will not have laminated edges. We would just keep the current trim. One concern I do have is that our current tile countertop already sits up a bit higher than our slide in range which is annoying. And this would only make it worse. As for the sink, the fabricator said that undermount isn't a problem and explained how they would do it, but I didn't really understand what he meant. I did pop off a piece of trim on the side and a couple of tiles on an edge that is somewhat hidden to see if I could get a better idea of how the current top is attached and I think it may be glued unless there are some nails hidden in there that I can't see. The trim is nailed directly into the cabinets and the top inch or so of the cabinet is not stained....See More20mm (2cm) porcelain slab countertops
Comments (43)@Alex P In theory, cabinets could be leveled to precisely the same height so that a countertop material would sit right down flat on top with no shimming. In reality, this almost never happens. Even with the very best technology in cabinetry leveling like using EZ-Level bracing which remains intact over time, you are still looking at having to shim a countertop of any type at least in a few places even in the best of circumstances. Regular cabinetry shims can shift over time depending on how they are applied, affecting your long-term stability prospects. For a countertop material that is already prone to cracking such as porcelain is, this becomes a great risk to try to shim that material with no underlayment for support, even at a 20 mm thickness. I would be more comfortable relying on the MSI guidelines for something like a small bathroom vanity countertop rather than a full kitchen where you will almost be guaranteed to need to shim the porcelain to bring it level across the largest run of your countertop area, thus leaving gaps between shims rather than the full support a subtop would provide. That is why you rarely see porcelain countertops without an underlayment unless it is for a small area like a bathroom. If you want the edge to be thin and polished without an underlayment, what this means is that you will need to specify your cabinetry to be constructed with full subtops and then somehow get them all perfectly level and ensure that there will be no shifting of the cabinetry or foundation in years to come, and then lay the porcelain down without shimming it if at all possible. Your idea of metal trim to cover an underlayment is creative, but remember that Schluter is designed to be anchored into grout, so you would need to be confident that you could secure it in an alternate manner before going that direction since you won't have any grout or tile adhesive in that area. I mentioned honed Absolute Black granite because it is much lighter than the polished type. Some varieties present in a gray color like concrete which is why your description reminded me of it. Soapstone also comes in a matte gray variety. I put soapstone in my own kitchen and love it, and it is considered to be a modern material for current kitchen design. Prepare for heartbreak if you do go with porcelain under any circumstances. Cracking and chipping with porcelain can happen, and it can happen to you, sometimes beyond any hope of warranty coverage. I liked the look of porcelain and its wear properties, but after much research including seeing cracks and chips in finished applications and talking to experienced fabricators, I decided to spare myself the risk. I have been thoroughly happy with the soapstone instead and recommend it if you cannot find anything else suitable. Even a honed marble like Danby would present fewer headaches for you than porcelain or concrete, I think....See Morebarthelemy
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