Cabinets arrived- how fussy should I be with dings?
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Cabinets arrived, how to negotiate the mistakes.
Comments (11)I have my M.Arch and worked for architecture firms for 5 years before taking a kitchen design job after being out of work in a down economy and I work mostly with semi-custom cabinets (although one line is a small line with a great engineer who will build anything I can draw, so it's nice). Anyway, I don't care if the budget is unlimited or $5k, if I don't get what I specified, it gets fixed. I try to be as reasonable as possible both with my customers AND the cabinet companies to find the least painful solution BUT the fact that you did not pay $50k for your cabinets doesn't mean that you are not entitled to get what you paid for! Whether you want to deal with the hassle is another thing and I think that your call on the finished interiors is a good one - it's unclear if that's an upgrade (it is on semi-custom lines) and if they are trying to charge you for an upgrade that you didn't ask for, of course I would not pay it. If it is more expensive for the clear maple interior, I would not only expect to not pay for what I did not get, but for a discount for accepting something other than what I wanted. Anything involving layout and function and major aesthetics should be right and IMO, having a bracket dead center on a bar sized for 3 people is a big mistake that you will regret the first time someone smacks their knees on that and every time after. I would not accept it for myself and I would not accept it for a customer. I know this project has been going on a long time but you said it's in the basement - which is not the main kitchen? which is not stopping you from getting that back together? If this is a custom shop, did they send you shop drawings back for your approval or did they just go based on your drawings? I have never worked (as an architect, as part of larger overall projects) with a custom shop who did not produce their own set of shop drawings for my review and it is amazing what kind of assumptions cabinetmakers make, even given a full detailed set of drawings to go on. It's like a game of telephone or something and larger projects have taken much back and forth to make sure everyone was on the page before a stick of wood was touched. I am way more assertive when it's someone else's stuff that is messed up though... for my stuff, I just get tired and want it overwith, so I empathize with you. And I have a 4 year old. But down the line I think you will regret taking too much of a beating from these guys....See MoreHow tolerant should I be of flaws in cabinet?
Comments (9)Hi. I spent over $80K on my Kountry Kraft kitchen cabinets and I sent back my fridge panels b/c they were not the way they were designed in the sketches. It took 4 weeks to get the replacements. That said, some end panels left a horrible seam and the ends were a completely different color. A tech from KK came to my house and spent 3 hours touching up things here and there, including making exposed hinges that were not level, level, and touching up a small gouge my GC did to a face frame above my wall oven. Am I 100% satisfied? Not really. But, I'll have to live with a bunch of imperfections and have learned to say "Oh Well." and consider myself lucky to have over all a very beautiful kitchen. Sort of like the first ding on a new car, it's almost a relief when it happens. I'll never be doing this again, so it bums me a tiny bit that it's not "perfect" especially since it will become less perfect down the road with the anticipated cracks and seams that will show since my cabs are painted white. BUT, I doubt anyone else coming into my kitchen will notice the flaws. AND, I bet if I moved into my house with the kitchen exactly as it will be when it is finished, I would love it to death and wouldn't notice a single flaw. Hope you end up happy and love your new kitchen!...See MoreDing ding ding, we have a winner!!!
Comments (21)OMG, (granted that I'm not spending my money and that I know jack about metal roofs) I would slap a dormer over that as fast as I could and flatten the floor. Little space with high ceiling = Lust. MOVE your existing dining table out there with as many chairs as you believe you'll need or use folding chairs and some plywood propped up. "Practice" having meals in that space and change the arrangement around as needed. Yeah, your family will think you're crazy - but so what? :) If you've really got to have another exit to the patio, think about placing it on the short wall. Cause I'd think about leaving the two big plate windows alone. They are bigger than a single patio door. The 5 foot thing is "the rule". I had that and it worked really well for us. I've also worked enough in 8 foot wide galleys to know it can be an issue when two people are moving around in it. For ME, a 4 foot wide "U" would be a nightmare. For you, it might not be so bad - particularly if you never have another person working with you. The oven door isn't the only thing that takes up space. The counter overhangs use 1.5" per side. The drawers stick out about 21-22". Doors stick out whatever size they are. People want to use the trash or the micro. An example of the problem is somebody wants to put stuff away from cleanup while you're trying in the middle of something. Granted this should be happening in your current kitchen, but you have less options for movement in a small U. Another unexpected use for a table, a desk or some sawhorses with plywood are to "try out" the U, umm for about a week. It won't be perfect, but see what you feel like with something sitting in that place and see what walking around it feels like. So check it out in 3D. On paper, my kitchen could have fit a small island in one place. I got an el-cheapo cart with a fold up extension because it easily fit on paper. In real life, I never used it, it felt completely in the way and it ended up being a junk collector. The same small island in the same position might work for someone else....See MoreHow should I deal with a huge issue with a cabinet (just found)
Comments (33)Sue you made my mother crack up :) Yes, the canned food would be perfect behind the bed...we can haul it out every time I have to make soup for the little guy :oP Great idea you pest :oP PC I"m trying....LOL We'll see. lascatx...the question about squareness is an issue I'm concerned about. The granite and cabinet are both set level (I checked) and the granite does rest on the entire box so I don't currently see any gaping issues, but I do worry about the situation down below getting worse. I'm thinking that a fix much like Rm's is probably going to be our option, but if the cabinet isn't solid, that's just a bandage, and then, I do have another in the same situation, but it isn't showing wall board behind it yet. (Same tray shelves and pullouts) I will say, after this I really wish that Woodmode would have been able to do our kitchen. They couldn't do all of the custom pieces I needed (mostly our bay window) so we went Omega. I regret it, which is sad to say given the price of these stupid cabinets. My mother has been complaining about the plastic supports since she arrived LOL I think I'm going to reorder metal ones from an after market source. I like the idea of more than a piece of plastic holding up my dishes. I personally think the system is flawed. In a smaller cabinet, perhaps it might work, but when you pull the shelf out, it is front heavy if it's loaded. The two cabinets we have like this are about 50% of our storage, so being without them for a period of time is really an incovenience. Well we'll see. I'm honestly at the end of my rope on this remodel....See MoreDeeV78
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