pros and cons of windows that go all the way down to the counters
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Kitchen window starting at counter height? Crazy?
Comments (20)In essence, no one can tell you this because all windows have slightly different dimensions. There are parts of the window unit lower than what is visible as the sill and those have different dimensions for different window types and for different makes. The framing for the window needs to take those dimensions into account. What buehl said and different countertops materials have different thicknesses and if you live in an older home, a level window may not be the same height from the flooring on both sides. There should be a dimensioned drawing available from the manufacturer showing where the an actual sill would intersect the window unit. Leaving a larger rough opening is an ok idea. Next time, try phrasing this as "I want to use the counter as the window sill." Show one of the pictures where this was done to use as an example. The way you're phrasing it (sill at the same level as the counter) doesn't make sense - bet those installers are thinking you want a wood sill butted up to the counter. You can use sliding windows or awning windows if they're sited at the bottom....See MorePros & cons - raised counter @ island. How do u deal w/messes?
Comments (5)caffeinequeen: Your trap door idea is great! :) It's just me & hubby & hubby is not the 'problem'...so...guess where the blame lies? I do like to be organized, it's just sometimes I'm in a hurry & things get set down on the table. My 12" space includes the wall area - I was thinking of something like this (without the beverage thing) I will also use my office - this will be just 'transitional' stuff waiting for me to put away. Plus, a phone & message place. I got the above from http://simplystated.realsimple.com/home/2008/09/where-busy-moms.html "The Kitchen Command Center" shows a kitchen organization makeover. Here's a great entry/control center (I'll link it below as well so you can see the entire site) yakkinyetti: I was thinking the same thing...a catchall & too high to sit comfortably. Thank you both for your input! Here is a link that might be useful: I'm an Organizing Junkie...See MoreEmergency: Need help with layout
Comments (18)Jasperdog, Buehl's first drawing bears a very striking resemblance to the kitchen I designed for myself. So does your initial drawing, for that matter, down to the French door to the left of the short side of the L counter and sites of sinks and stove. We differ in that mine is shorter, the long counter ending with the island, which is a bit shorter than yours. I don't have seating on the island and my fridge and pantry cabinets are set into a wall opposite the island, which has a door to a sitting room near the door to the garden but is otherwise solid. Also, I have no uppers over my L counter, just windows on both walls interrupted only by the stove hood. Buehl's ideas basically sound great to me. They should--I'm living with a lot of them. Moving clockwise from the French door in my kitchen: I put the DW to the left of the sink, which is about 42" from the island, allowing us to pass with the door open. I don't prep on the short arm of the L-counter to the right of the sink, but I like that most cleanup tends to arrive to its left, on top of the DW, ready to set in. Scrubbing from the stove tends to arrive to the right of the sink, or likely in it. Glasses and cups, which are small, hard to carry items, are stored on the outside of that end of the island (sink and coffee/toaster niche both a step away). In your case, I'd at least consider having island drawers opening toward the DW, even if it would require some adjustments. Full depth'd be nice, but even 12" or 15" deep shelves or drawers would put very good storage right there. I put a row of 12" deep full-extension drawers on the top of the outside of my island, over shelves behind doors, but I may just someday install some where the bottom shelves are too to access that storage more easily. Still unloading, silverware, other small items, storage containers, are in drawers directly to the right of the sink, very close and easy. Dishes, cooking utensils and pots and pans are stored at point-of-use in drawers under/alongside the stove area. Most are larger items, and since they go farthest, they're stacked on the island, shoved over, and set in the drawers. Without storage in close-by uppers, unloading is not optimal, but it's still quick and easy. I had good reasons for doing it this way, but it was an experiment that fortunately has worked out. I'd definitely do it again. Directly to the right of the sink is my trash pullout. The rest of the short L/corner on that side is mainly used for putting food in containers, so containers, baggies, plastic wrap, etc., are stored in that area. The reason my trash is by the main sink is that we're on a septic tank, so dishes are scraped into the garbage, not the sink. If we were on a sewer, I'd have a trash pullout on the island where I prep because that's where most of the disposables originate. My one oven is under the counter to the left of the stove, where I don't have to stand in front of it as......See MoreAdding a Bar Sink to Coffee Bar. Pro’s and Con’s?
Comments (4)Did you make a choice yet? I’m in the same boat. The main sink is on the island with eat-up depth and we have another counter on the opposite side to use for coffee/bar/serving area. Is the sink useful to reduce traffic at the main sink or is it better to keep the counter clear? There is a bathroom and a laundry sink right down the hall for additional hand washing so this sink would probably only serve to fill the coffee pot and dump/rinse glasses between drinks. There’s already a drain there so plumbing is easy. I’m leaning to no but worried I’ll regret it....See Morefran1523
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