Using replacement windows in new construction
tnladyhillbilly
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Replacement Windows vs New Construction Windows
Comments (6)Rotted sills are pretty commonplace and most of the rot that people see is often times draining behind the exterior cladding of the home and therefore not rotting structure. You need to take a closer look (i.e. remove some exterior cladding and inspect structure or remove the sill and take a look at the rough opening). While the rot may look significant, a majority of what is out there is non-structural and therefore does not require a full tear out. If you go full tear out, you absolutely should use a flanged/new construction window. Having asbestos siding certainly complicates matters a bit and you would be well advised to check code requirements as it pertains to that specific ACM (Asbestos containing material). There are more stringent requirements if the material is removed professionally (i.e. by a contractor) as compared to the homeowner (not all together dissimilar than the RRP fiasco)....See MoreOkna Window construction vs replacement
Comments (9)Carmel, I agree with my colleagues above are saying, however if you analyze what was said by the contractors I don't know that I would say that it is flat out wrong, just in need of clarification. -Most new construction windows that are used are indeed lower quality, but not because of any inherent defect in the design of a "new construction" window, it is simply because as he was alluding to, most new home buyers are more concerned with their granite countertop color than the quality of their windows. Thus, most "new construction windows" are indeed junk. -Regarding the Okna guy, I'm going to speculate here that the intent of his comments was to convey that Okna is not primarily a "new construction" window manufacturer. They supply the high-end remodeling market primarily, where folks are far more discerning in their window choices after having been burned by cheap or deteriorating windows. Okna does however offer each of their lines available with a nailing fin for new construction installation. It is the same window, just with a nailing fin added. Ultimately all comments above including those by the contractors that you've spoken to can be correct, it just depends on in what context these things were said. Technically speaking, in most instances a new construction window and a replacement window are the same save the addition of a nailing fin (and in some cases jamb depth) so no, the quality is not different. That said, many guys will speak in reference to the poor "builder grade" products normally associated with new construction when referring to those products in general, and I'd assume that is what the Simonton guy was getting at.......See MoreReplacement Windows vs. New Construction Windows
Comments (23)A new construction window does not always mean more glass. It depends on window type and size and manufacturer. When we replaced our old leaky Aluminum windows with AL clad, wood interior windows (Marvin Ultimate), we ended up losing about 6+ inches of glass. The old aluminum had skinny sash while the new ones have large wood pieces inside. The large wood pieces did not affect the views as we feared but they certainly did not yield more glass. There are several reasons to stay with replacement even when changing siding and trim. We lived through this in our previous house. When trim around the windows is expensive to replace and already matches the house trim. WHen original frame is sound and we are not changing window size. When replacement window is sufficiently better than old window. When project cost of new construction is way higher than replacement windows. WE ended up using replacement windows for our previous home. For our current house, the trim was bad and needed replacement anyway, the framing surrounding the windows had visible water damage and there is no replacement for those poor quality Aluminum windows. The end result was new construction windows....See Morenew construction vs "replacement" windows
Comments (3)Replacement windows are just that - the sashes ( using a double hung window as an example) are removed along with the jamb liners, leaving the frame of the old window, and a new window is inserted. Picture a frame within a frame A new construction (or full tear out as some call it) is where the entire window is removed right down to the studs of the house. A new construction window will have a flange that is called a nailing fin that is nailed directly to the sheathing/ studs from the exterior. All three of the manufactures you mentioned do make windows for both applications. In most cases a new construction window is not needed, unless of course there is great deal of integrity issues with the frame of the window you are replacing. Additionally, a full tear out job will generally yield more glass area. You mentioned three manufactures - two that make vinyl, and one that makes fiberglass (ultrex). Very difficult to rank from best to worst with these three, as they are all top producers. The difficult part of the ranking - you would need to determine if you want vinyl or fiberglass first. If you decide vinyl - you are in luck....you are right in the heart (Ohio) of a number of good manufactures....See Moretnladyhillbilly
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