Jeld-Wen Siteline EX or Kolbe Classic or Kolbe Ultra
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Comments (37)I'd be interested if the quotes for the windows are from window dealers that are installing them. Those companies charge crazy prices for installation, and the homeowner has no clue as to the competency of the installation crew. IMO, the only way to go is to have a trusted finish carpenter measure and install windows and the contractor will be buying the windows from a builders supply company at a significant discount to what an average homeowner will pay for the same window. The most important aspect of the whole process is the quality of the installation. Lousy windows installed by a conscientious pro will last longer than top dollar windows installed by a schmuck. Any work done on a house that will come in contact with water had better done by the book or you'll be in a world of misery....See MoreIs Jeldwen Siteline ok?
Comments (9)For us, Kolbe Traditions was the same price as Siteline EX, and I thought the Kolbe looked light years better. My builder also uses Jeld-Wen normally, and I was disappointed in everything but their custom line, and the Kolbes were cheaper than JW custom. For the sake of comparison, we are doing all-wood double hung windows (no casements and no cladding). I originally was worried about Kolbe because our local dealer kept telling my builder that we should just get the windsor (I asked for a Kolbe all wood bid and he sent a Windsor pinnacle aluminum clad bid, then for weeks refused to bid Kolbe, very strange) but when I went over there, the owner asked me what I thought of the bids. When I told him we still didn't have the Kolbe bid he pulled our job from that salesman, reassigned it, and I got the bid same day. Only explaining my change of heart from my thread below....See MoreLooking for a technical opinion on wood clad windows
Comments (4)Hey...hey. I don't back up everything that Millworkman says...unless it is positive about me. Then yes. But in all seriousness, Millworkman has more experience with wood windows than I do and my lesser experiences all echo his recommendations. Regardless of the "technical" evaluations of the windows, I would suggest that you examine how Jeld-Wen has previously handled warranty claims against their product. I don't know the Sierra Pacific product but I can speak about how Marvin has previously handled warranty failures and it is above board. They have posted on here and sought to help out in any manner than they could. That speaks volumes about a company that doesn't really need to do that to secure their reputation. What technical evaluations are you looking for. Most of the feedback here is based on in the field observations of window failures, deficiencies, and general construction. As you stated, the warranties are similar so everything on paper looks the same so what good would technical document that reflects that same scenario benefit. There are certain things in wood windows that tend to translate into a better overall product and are representative of a company approach to longevity. The first would be extruded vs. roll formed cladding. Roll formed is cheaper, easier, and less wasteful by its very construction. Extruded is thicker, more resistant to expansion/contraction, and generally more difficult to work with. I would opt for a window with extruded cladding because it indicates a companies construction tenor and dedication to materials selection. Second would be engineering. I have handled some extremely large Marvin units before and they work as flawlessly as the more modes sized units. That indicates an attention to detail and thoughtful selection of components. By contrast, I have taken other wood windows out of the paper and not had them work and require field repairs before setting them. The last would be warranty handling and see my notes above. You are definitely a big time heating degree dominated climate up there. That being said, do either of these windows, or any that you have looked at, get you the energy performance that you need to see? Wood in and of itself, might night be the best choice unless you have something in a super efficient option. A modern style home will look good with the more narrow profile and modern frame style. You are close enough to Canada. Have you examined any of their higher end fiberglass options. Most would be available with a wood interior for a wood feel to the inside as well as have much higher efficiency glass and air tightness ratings. Hopefully this gives you a bit of information outside of what Millworkman might so I can shake off my "parrot" tag. Good luck with the project and please feel free to post up as I am happy to volunteer any feedback on products or options....See MoreAny Experience with Kolbe Forgent (Glastra) Windows?
Comments (57)Hi Karen, Turtle code requires lass than 45% visible light transmittance so the Quad 452 (52% VT) is actually a bit over the requirement and would need to be paired up with a tinted glass in order to meet the 45%, but since your concern is SHGC not VT, I am including a chart of the SHGC (among other) numbers for Cardinal coatings. SHGC is the last number on the right... The third column of numbers from the left is the glass visible light transmittance (VLT or VT). VLT is measured as part of an IG unit not just a single coated lite. On the far right are glass-only solar heat gain numbers, whereas window SHGC rating is based on the overall size of the window for computation, not just the glass area. A full window SHGC rating will always be lower than the glass only number because it includes sash and frame performance (which is zero) as well....See Moregardenguy
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