440v 3 phase and 220 v , for welder
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Comments (1)"OK I understand that the red is 110volt black is 110volt..." What are you measuring black and red to for 120 V? THAT is what the white (AKA neutral) is for. It is the second conductor needed for the 120 V lines. US AC power is 120/240 V. Black to red is 240 volts. Black to white is 120 V. Red to white is 120 V. Green is the safety ground and NOT a power conductor. The ground should ONLY conduct current when a fault occurs....See More120V 220V - Why?
Comments (27)A 120 V circuit is safer than a 240V one. The main advantage of 240v over 120v is that it requires only half as much current to deliver the same watts into a resistive load, therefore, the wire can be smaller. In the US, single phase residential voltage comes from a center tapped transformer. The center of the winding is the neutral while the two outer ends are the two voltages supplied to the distribution box (circuit breaker or fuse box). Both 'hot' lines measure 120v with respect to the neutral, but since these two hot lines are opposed by 180 deg, they measure 240v with respect to each other. With this system, 240 power can be supplied with lines that are at only 120v with respect to the neutral. Now for the big surprise about ac motors. For motors larger than a few horsepower, the current does not vary lineraly with the load! As the shaft load increases, the current does increase some, however, the big change is the phase angle between the voltage and current. Power delivered is voltage x current x power-factor. When the current is 90 deg to the voltage, power is zero; When the current is in phase with the voltage (0 deg), power factor is 100%. So it is possible to have considerable motor current in the wires with little power output. Fractional horsepower motors have a goodly amount of resistance compared to their reactive component and because of this have greater resistive losses. The debate between 50 and 60 hz can go on forever and from a practical sense, has existed since the dawn of electric power. 60 hz has an advantage over 50 hz in that the cross section of the iron in a transformer can be a little smaller for delivering the same power. Hysteresis losses in magnetic materials is a positive function of frequency, thereby increases with frequency. But, at the same time, the peak magnetic flux required to transmit the same power increases with decreasing frequency. Aircraft systems uses 400 hz to reduce weight. Europe tends to use 50 hz while the US and Canada uses 60 hz. Sometimes it seems that this difference is maintained to make it more difficult to apply products from one side of the ocean to the other - e.g., trade protectionism....See MoreChanging from 220V to 110V for Range
Comments (21)Here's an intriguing option: use the existing 240V wiring for one of the new over-the-range GE Advantium 240 microwave/speedcookers/convection ovens. Reuse the 120V/15A wiring for the gas stove ignition. The Advantium 240 line was just revamped. The new ones look and function as regular microwave ovens, but with 5500w available, can also double as a regular 2nd oven, or triple as a high-speed oven that combines microwave and halogen cooking to create quickly-cooked dishes that are crispy and don't have the usual soggy microwave taste and texture. You would need to downrate the breaker from 40A to 30A, but otherwise it should work easily....See MoreFeeding 220v welder
Comments (12)i have seen a lot of welders hooked up with 10/3 some hooked up 2 #6 with #8 ground i guess it up to how much $$$ you want to put in it. 10/3 will carry 60 amps #6 will carry it better Am I reading this right and where are you getting your information? You can burn down your own house but DO NOT give advice to someone else unless you are ready to BACK IT UP NEC 334.80 / 310.15 10/3 is only rated for 30 amps. I would suggest that anyone jumping in quoting code references, especially outside the realm of normal residential branch circuits, might want to consider actually looking at related code articles before making statements regarding work they cover. As was pointed out, there is a special section in the code book that deals with welders. Although the wisdom of installing a breaker larger than permitted for a general use circuit in a residence is questionable, NEC Article 630 does permit breakers larger than 30 AMP to be used on #10 wire for a welder, given certain welder characteristics. While I generally install conductors matched to the breaker size for residential welder use there is no code requirement to do so. The correct size wire and breaker for the welder should be available in the manufacturer's literature. In the unlikely chance this information isn't available the information in article 630 will provide the necessary for a compliant installation....See MoreRon Natalie
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