Kristy!! I just got the seeds, thank you very much! Wow, I wasn't sure if I made the cut or not, but I am not one to ask twice, or to bug, so I wasn't even sure I was getting anything. THEN I get it, and its not just confed rose, but a few more packets of seeds as well! Another great surprise from another great forum family member :) Thank you so much Kristy! 2 surprises 2 days in a row! Woohoo! lol! I can't wait to start these, but unfortunately I have to unless I go buy more lights, lol. I feel the same way Kristy, I feel bad I dont have more to share, and plan on taking alot of cuttings this year, as well as seeds. Thanks to Marian for sending me all that great seed collecting stuff, I am ready!! :) Thanks again sweetie! (((hugs))) Daniella

I see you found what you need. Thank you pixie_lou for linking to that thread. I really wish some of the earlier fruitcake threads hadn't dropped off. Carol

I know what you mean mommabird! (Paige, right?) I think that's why I still hold on to this friendship--waiting to see if there's enough that's strong about our friendship that will lessen the impact. She lives in another town, so it's not like there are so many opportunities to "dilute" the effect that comment had. (Or, waiting to see if other events provide other guidance.) I also know that it's very easy to "kill the messenger"; *part* of why her comment stung was because I believed it was probably true, and it was evidence of how bad my home looked at the time to an outside. It was embarrassing, but it was true (was your joke about that boyfriend right, perhaps, and pointed right toward some uneasiness she was feeling?), and it's very easy to then blame the person who flipped on the light switch. So I fight against that--when she comes, I try not to think about it too much, and focus on the harmonies we can create as we chat. The thing is, I have friend from college who once said something really sharp that stung, and it really did nearly break up the friendship. But we got past it because it *was* an aberration, and the things that were good and strong about that friendship let us wait a day or two to get past it. That's also part of the damage the Dumpster Lady's comment did--put together with another "scolding" from her (one that I don't agree w/ her on), it showed me that we don't have the depth of friendship, or the sharing of standards, that perhaps we had both assumed. Maybe bcs we don't speak very often and so just don't know each other well; maybe bcs our personalities don't mesh as much as we'd thought. But it was less a single impact, and more the switch that has made me look again at the strength of the underlying friendship. But you're right, we all say stupid things, and we should be gentle with the people we know who do so, and hope that they'll be forgiving of us. (can your kids possibly be teenagers already? )

I must have missed that thread! I don't wear makeup often, but actually wore foundation, eyeshadow, liner, blush & lipstick yesterday for a bridal shower. I guess if I want to talk bras, ect, and the guys want to read it, oh well. If I worried about them reading it, I wouldn't post it. But it might be fun to see how many paid attention, besides OJ!!!!! Sleeperblues, have you been tested for diabetes? A friend of DGS's (7 y/o) has had dark circles for years, was never energetic, and all of a sudden started drinking all the time. His mother took him to the pediatritian several times, concerned, but never got anywhere until her son started drinking so much and she did some research. She walked in and said you are going to order these test. Kid has type one. Hope your circles are just natural, not due to illness. Tami