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Comparing Wood-clad: Marvin, Andersen, Pella, Peachtree

cvette
14 years ago

This forum is a great resource for window research.

I am replacing an original, small (~24x30) 22 year old double-hung Crestline window due to excessive moisture damage in a bathroom. The previous owner did not have proper ventilation. I have compared several windows and I was hoping to get some feedback on what features make a quality window. Here are my notes, hopefully they are not too long winded. We are planning to stay in this house for at least 20 years. Any feedback is appreciated.

I am avoiding replacement windows because I think the insulation in the rough opening is poor and I want to redo it anyway. Since I plan to take the trim off, I see no reason to not do a full frame new construction window. Any flaws in this logic? I also found 24x30 is not a standard size so I will probably increase the RO to match a standard size. All quotes are with ~25" x 35". For some quotes I dont recall what the glass upgrades were, but once I narrow the decision, IÂll re-quote as needed.

I decided I didnÂt want vinyl windows. At first I started looking at fiberglass windows due to moisture concerns. I don't know if the stain/seal on the original windows wasn't sufficient or if it started to fail, but moisture and condensation have damaged the existing window. All of the bathroom fixtures (tub, toilet, etc) are tan not white, so if I plan to move away from the existing stained woodwork and go for fiberglass, I'd like to find one with a beige or tan interior.

I looked at the following fiberglass double-hungs:

-- Marvin Integrity - only white interior (not quoted)

-- Pella Impervia - only white interior (not quoted)

-- Peachtree 600 series - only white interior ($325)

-- Marvin Infinity  offered with tan interior, nice replacement window, no DIY - must be installed by Marvin ($435 + $300 install)

Wow! That is expensive for such a small window. So I began looking at aluminum-clad wood windows. IÂm thinking that if I take proper care of the window in the bathroom and re-seal it as necessary, it should last as long as a fiberglass one. Here are my notes and impressions from each window IÂve seen so far:

Peachtree 700 series ($252)

- OPTIONS: LowE glass (need to bump this to ZoE5 w/Krypton to meet tax credit), no grilles, unfinished interior

- OBSERVATIONS: integral nailing fin, internal latch, 0.75" thick glass unit

- SEALS: No hollow bulb seals, flexible "C" shaped vinyl top/bottom, vinyl strip "hairs" on sides, I think it had some sort of interlock where the sashes meet in the middle

- OVERALL: The first aluminum-clad window I looked so I may have missed some thingsÂA nice window

Marvin Ultimate ($370)

- OPTIONS: LoE366 Argon, no grilles, unfinished interior

- OBSERVATIONS: 0.7" total glass unit with 0.125" thick glass interior and exterior, wood jamb above inner sash, tilt feature integral with latch, non-integral nailing fin

- SEALS: "C" shaped vinyl top, hollow bulb middle and bottom, foam filled bulb sides

- OVERALL: A nice window but priceyÂalmost as much as the Infinity

Pella Architect series ($302)

- OPTIONS: donÂt recall glass options as quoted, no grilles, unfinished interior

- OBERVATIONS: 0.625" total glass unit with 0.098" thick glass interior and exterior, can see balance in jamb, clad fit not impressive, flat sloped sill, wood jamb above inner sash, metal latch rails on jamb, non-integral nailing fin

- SEALS: foam filled bulb top/bottom/sides, hollow bulb middle, male/female frame/sash meeting

- OVERALL: Maybe it was a little beat up since it was a floor model but it felt a little loose overall and I was just not impressed

Andersen Woodwright ($252)

- OPTIONS: donÂt recall glass options as quoted, no grilles, unfinished interior

- OBSERVATIONS: 0.695" total glass unit with 0.125" thick glass interior and 0.087" thick glass exterior, Fibrex sill, Fibrex clad sash, wood jamb above inner sash, non-integral nailing fin

- SEALS: I think it had some sort of interlock where the sashes meet in the middle, need to go back and look again at all seals

- OVERALL: I was quite impressed with the fit and finish of this window

I plan to go to a different dealer and check out the Woodwright again. IÂll get another quote with options that meet the 2009 tax credit -- the quote seems low and I thought it would be more in line with Pella and Marvin. For the price, the Marvin Ultimate didnÂt blow me away. The Pella and Peachtree were just OK.

I will most likely install this bathroom window myself. If it goes well and there is room in the budget, I may replace the other main windows in the house to take advantage of the tax credit. The main house windows would definitely be aluminum clad-wood, so IÂm doing this bathroom window research with an eye towards the rest of the house.

Hmm, quite a long post. Any suggestions on what to look for would be great. IÂm interested to see if my notes are consistent with evaluations by other people in their own travels.

Thanks,

Chris

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