What's your favorite cheap wine?
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Comments (15)Plant Swaps! Watch for them on the Carolina Exchange forum. Spring swaps are coming up. I have done so much for nothing or next to nothing. Mostly my time to divide, take cuttings, sow a few extra seeds. I would not have a lot of the plants I have if it weren't for generous swappers! Also rcvd' pots, yard art, etc... We could all put that Exchange forum to a lot more use in this economy... few of us sow exactly the number of seeds we plan to grow. Swap your extras for other things you want with people that live close to you. If you're too far from one of the swaps, start one! Pick a local park, a date, post it, run your mouth a lot to advertise and go for it! Even if just one other person shows you have one person to swap with! Look into strawbale gardening or lasagna beds if you have poor soil. Check out the Winter Sowing Forum, the Container Forum and the Frugal Forum which have some great ideas. Seed sowing... Direct sow (I'm going to sow on top of the snow once it gets here) what you can and for stuff that needs closer watching I use regular potting soil and then a small layer of seed starting mix over top of it. A bag last a long time that way. Compost everything you can get your hands on that's compostable! Starbucks saves their grounds, some restaurants have bags or boxes of salad veggie scraps, veggie stands will often have a box or two of over ripe stuff, shredded paper. Rethink every time you start to toss something in the trash, can it be composted or used to sow seeds/cuttings in, or as a cloche? You can use old pallets which are usually free if you'll haul away, to build compost bins. If you keep a fish aquarium save your water changing water for watering plants. They love it! Catch rainwater. You can add color, texture and money saving veggies by mixing them into your flower beds. Remember (or heard of, if you're younger) Victory Gardens? Checked the price of sweet peppers lately? My sweet peppers did fantastic last year in a flower bed and were so healthy. The pollinators and other beneficial bugs are already there and the soils have been worked for several years (some were originally lasagna beds where I used layers of cardboard, leaves, etc...) so it's pretty good stuff for veggies. Hot peppers did not like it there, I think they like a little punishment to do their best, but the sweet peppers loved it. Tomatoes like it (I have a little grape size in one bed that I don't even need to plant anymore) and Zucchetta squash growing up an arch loved it. Try different things and see what does well with your flowers. I'm trying a smaller type of okra in one of mine this year and scattering in a few greens or anything colorful/edible I can come up with. I poke a few garlic cloves into large outdoor pots here and there or some colorful beans up a trellis. Aside from something like corn most veggies don't need to be planted in neat little rows or even squares. Put them anywhere you can squeeze a spot for them. Even if you don't can/freeze anything just having fresh will give your grocery bill some breathing room. Watch for local Master Gardener groups that have spring plant sales. Get there early! Some schools and other local groups have plant sales. Use freecycle. I've seen people ask for (and get) and give away pots, strawbales leftover from halloweeen displays, plants, bags of leaves, newspapers, cinder blocks. Last fall someone gave us still sealed bags of good potting soil, a plant shelf, plant hangers, etc.. thrown in with pots from someone who had lost a loved one and was cleaning out. I think all gardeners have creative and frugal souls, we just need to tap into it....See MoreWhat is your favorite benefit of your smaller home?
Comments (45)I love the idea of a house that is 'fully lived in' as sister3 says! And 'human scaled'...so much empty space in really big houses. The guest conundrum is funny to listen to...we've been lamenting about not having room for our relatives to stay when they come (usually for at least a week) and I don't think they enjoy the idea of camping that long in a tent, so its always an issue. Last year it rained 9 out of the 10 days my sis and 2 children (who fit the previously mentioned category perfectly)were here! Cramped to say the least! I think I'll not worry so much about trying to make them comfortable in the house (there's talk this year of them borrowing a camper trailer! Hee hee!) Cleaning and maintenance is definately a bonus, but like amanda I find it gets cluttered and the floor gets dirty so darn fast! But a few minutes each morning (well, ideally every morning...)seems to keep things under control. Also, we dont have seperate kitchen, dining and living areas (all one room) so our computer sits amongst it all. We got a 19" monitor so we can watch movies on it, which keeps down the electronic clutter. We even have no trouble with one phone! And heating is a cinch...in fact, right now I'm baking a rhubarb crisp, and the oven is heating the cabin nicely on this rainy, cold day! Not to mention filling it with yummy aroma! The list of benifits just goes on and on...if only people just realized!...See MoreCheap wine, or wine snobs (long)
Comments (7)Allison - wine mentor? What a cool job that would be. I don't know. I've been drinking wine for years and ask questions all the time. Now that I'm selling it I end up answering a few questions too, but my suggestion is to read and taste. And if you ever get out to NYC, call me. That's serious incidentally. Anyway, I can offer a few suggestions for people. First, don't overlook Beaujolais. It's been producing wine for centuries, mostly for cafes around Lyon, where there were a number of silk merchants. They make a young wine for drinking within a few months and back in the 80s a couple British guys were drinking and made a bet with each other about which one could get the wine to London fastest. That set off a trend for about 10 - 20 years and increased sales of that young Beaujolais. Production shot up and a lot of second rate wine was made to cash in. Then the fad faded, the market crashed, and the area is suffering today. BUT - in the hills around Beaujolais they also have what are called "cru" sites and those are very much worth investigating. For education, bypass the young stuff and look for the crus - they will have a name like Fleurie, Julianas, Morgon, Moulon au Vent, Regnie, or something like that. This area is just south of Burgundy, and some of the winemakers in Burgundy work in both places and you can learn a lot and have fun. Find a producer, say Chermette, or Brun, for example, and sample the wine of the same producer from Fleurie, Morgon and Julianas. Even buy George Dubeouf wines from those places - they are great values and will show you the differences in the soils and environment and microclimates, which the French call "terroir". Because it is the same winemaking, you take that variable out of the equation and presumably taste only the differences that result from the terroir. It's a good lesson and the wine is wonderful, inexpensive, and not high in alcohol. And even try the young Beaujolais just to compare. As a rule it will be simpler, but quite nice. If you can start to understand those, you start to understand what people get excited about when they talk of Burgundy or Piedmont. You can do it with riesling too - they pretty much never use oak barrels in Germany for the rieslings, so you only taste the winemaker and the vineyard. For example, find some Prum - J.J. Prum, S.A. Prum, Weins Prum. They are related family and they make wine from the same vineyard. You can learn about the differences in winemaking. Or or St Urbans Hof and Zillikin who both use the Ockfener Bockstein vineyard and who are probably cheaper than the Prums. Or find a producer who uses multiple vineyards, like St Urbans Hof again, and try their Ockfener Bockstein vs their wine from Piesporter Goldtropfchen, looking at the same winemaker but different vineyards. Try to find Kabinett wines and don't mix Kabinett and Spatlese, etc., for this study, because the sugar will through you off. Write down the differences between the wines that you observe. You can do it in CA too - Andy Beckstoffer owns vineyards that produce really great wines, but those are going to be much more costly than those rieslings are. Schrader for example, is one of many people making wine from the Tokalon property, but you're talking $100 a bottle. The Prums have had their vineyards for years, maybe centuries. Beckstoffer moved to CA from Virginia, bought property, and sells his grapes at a price based on what the winery is going to charge for the wine! So those CA wineries, being pretty new and only recently opened by guys who became millionaires somewhere else and who paid $200,000 and acre, or else whatever Beckstoffer wants per ton, charge a lot of money for their wines, whereas Prum can sell a wine for $26 or less. I love the idea of Two Buck Chuck, but the wine isn't so great IMO. I'd rather pay another dollar and get a better wine and I think they could do it. What you won't have however, is the distinction you get from the other wines I suggested. That's because it is designed specifically NOT to have it. The idea is to create consistency, not personality. Again, no problem here and more power to him, but for me it would be boring to drink the same thing all the time, and I collect wine specifically to have variety. In 2005, the cabernet sauvignon harvest in Napa was pretty big and pretty good. People thinned the crop several times in some vineyards but the grape clusters were large so they still got more tonnage per acre than they normally do, although the wines are top notch anyhow. Prices? Not going anywhere good as far as I can see. As long as wines are selling for $100 and up, the prices aren't coming down. And about that thinning - in France and other regions, there are often regulations regarding yield per acre. They think that if you cut some young grape bunches off, called "green harvesting", the remaining ones will be more concentrated. That's becoming a basic tenet of winemaking. But there is some evidence and some opinion that this is BS. The concept was developed before there were adequate ways to measure. So a long time ago in France they thought they could improve quality by limiting yield. But maybe that's artificial, as illustrated by the 2005 vintage in CA. In a nice warm year, with adequate rain and no heat and healthy vines, the plants just might want to produce a little more with no drop in quality. In 1997 and 2005, that happened in Napa. If one were only to go by yield, we would have less wine but in fact, there was no reason to reduce production since the quality is fine. But as long as people are willing to pay, others will produce wine at $100 and up. In much of France today, they are trying to reduce production to keep prices high. You can figure out the economics of that, but IMO the idea is flawed because the competition is not simply air, it is wine from elsewhere. So if I can't buy or afford French wine, I'll buy Australian wine or Spanish or Chilean. It's a huge generalization and not 100% true, but you might say that in Napa the high prices are the result of extraordinary entry costs while in Bordeaux or Burgundy or Champagne, they are the result of production decisions designed to keep prices high. Again, that's not entirely true but its a shorthand explanation. So you look for areas like Beaujolais, Cotes du Ventoux, Cotes du Rhone, Languedoc in France, or the Rhine in Germany, or Umbira and Puglia in Italy, or Paso Robles or Mendocino in CA, or Walla Walla or Columbia Valley in WA and you can find much better deals. Or look at Argentina - some nice stuff coming out of there. And in the Texas Hill Country, they're working and in Arizona and in other states as well. Some people disparage those wines, but the people have to start somewhere. I used to disparage the wines from Michigan. Then I tried some. Taught me a lesson. I only knew the cheap sugary stuff but there are now some serious producers making good whites on the west of the state. Also in Ohio there are one or two - Kincaid makes really nice cabs down near Kentucky. I would never have believed it if I hadn't tried them. And in fact, they were in some pretty stiff competition - I had them at a dinner with people who brought some serious wine to the table and brought these just to educate us. So if someone is open minded, there is no reason to listen to wine snobs and you can find some great values out there, that are interesting, complex, and even educational if you care to go that way. Cheers all....See MoreDo you have a favorite wine?
Comments (66)@msrose -- a fruit forward wine really can occur with any varietal or blend, but is often a style associated with certain types. But if you enjoyed the Gewurtztraminer, then you might like ones from the Alsace or from the PNW (e.g., Hogue, Chateau St. Michelle). There are also good Rieslings and Pinot Gris/Pinot Grigio from those areas. If you want something less sweet, you may want to try the Chateau St. Michelle Dry Riesling or an unoaked chardonnay/Pinot Grigio like those listed. If you find you still want a red and those other choices you tried aren't working for you, you might venture into a Zinfandel (Rancho Zabaco, budget Rosemblum slight step up). They can be fruit forward to the point of being jammy. Slightly OT, but I had read that much of the US red wine production was pushed to fruit-forward, bold wines by the palate of Robert Parker, an influential wine critic. He's the one who came up with those first 0 to 100 point ratings you see listed in advertisements, and now emulated by many publications. Thus the vintners let the fruit ripen longer on the vines, driving the sugars and resulting alcohol content up....See More- 19 years agolast modified: 11 years ago
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