Ann, THANK YOU!!! I think you've hit the nail on the head. There's one pic on the page before the last that shows three flowers in different stages with one blown open like my first pics. Even the leaves have the red ribbing. I think it IS AB. There's not much on GW about it, so I'll do some more sleuthing. Is this one still sold as AB, do you know? This is thrilling. It's such a pretty flower, I'm surprised it's so little grown and not much info on it. I like that it's meant to stay small, now just to see if it looks good next to Dark Desire and New Dawn. I had wanted a VERY light blush there, such as First Crush or Bolero, or a soft pink such as Earth angel or Gruss an Aachen. On the parallel side I wanted something in the same colour as Viking Queen and was thinking of Pretty Jessica. Hmmm. I also have space in the bed with VQ, CL. Falstaff, Heathcliff and Sugar Moon with only morning sun. The next bed I'm planting in the spring will have a climbing pink rose, TessOTD and as yet undetermined. I'll have to look at my old pics and see how it might look with those colours. The flower is still identical and now lasting days with fragrance in our now cold weather. It can take freezing. As shown above in the last two pics it has an almost golden glow with stamens showing and inner petals recurving towards them. Is that a "button eye"? There is the definite quartering in this flower unlike the first ones.

This is indeed sad. And startlingly common. We are losing so many old family businesses to our modern mindset. I see a great deal of this in my classroom, with high schoolers. It worries me; we aren’t content to be a part of something with history and longevity, but want to express our uniqueness as individuals more than we want to honor the past. It used to be that you took great pride in assuming the business your family built from sweat and tears, but now so many young people look at these businesses with disdain, and don’t have an appreciation for what it means to have kept a business alive for so long.

Thank you, perma and pippa! Yes the bloom form I just couldn’t resist! Had to grow it, even if I knew there’s a chance I wouldn’t like the scent (heard myyrh is a love or hate thing).

I wish mine looked like Sheila’s. Here she is very narrow and upright. perfect for a hedge on a small space. I have like 6 plants close together because they are so narrow. There are 3-4 years old grafted plants maybe with age they would turn nice and full like Sheila’s Here the individual plants are more noticeable