Is 5 feet to wide for an island?
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Is 5 feet between the cabinets and island good?
Comments (26)We have a 5 foot aisle in the work area and it's great. We don't bump butts or hafta tell the other person to get out of the way while opening a cabinet. We can have both sides open and still fit. We have stools that back up to operating cabinets and have more than 5 but it could have been 5 feet or a bit less with no problems. After the nkba standards, it's pretty much personal. The recommended NKBA MINIMUM working aisle is 48" in a kitchen with two cooks and 42" with one. That would govern between base cabinets attached to a wall and cabinets on another wall or an island. The space is generally measured from counter edge to counter edge. Other strange guidelines apply in other situations. Another option for a slightly wider than "normal" space is to add to the counter depths by padding out the base cabinets from the wall so the counter can be deeper. It works best if there is also an option to get deeper wall cabinets....See Moreseating for 5 at 28' wide island?
Comments (9)Is this for meals or for just sitting around for a short time? The minimum recommended overhang for someone sitting at a counter-height surface is 15" (for table-height, it's 19"). If two people are seated across from each other, that means you should have at least 30". If everyone has short legs (and will always have short legs, i.e., considering children grow...), 28" might work. However if your family has any tall members or anyone has long legs, 28" is going to be too shallow. Mocking it up is a good idea...but you need to mock it up and use it as planned. I.e., if you plan to eat there or sit there for any length of time, you need to do exactly that in the mockup...and several times so it's no longer "new" and, therefore, not always accurately "felt" (think about it, when something is new, we often don't notice the flaws or the irritants until we live with it for awhile). Oh, and when you mock it up, consider your children, if you have them (or plan to), at teen/adult size, not their current size! Children grow very, very quickly!! Another thing to consider...I doubt you'll have 5' in the seating area...you have to include the counter overhang on the work end. You will probably have around 4'10" to 4'10-1/2". This becomes an issue b/c you plan to have someone sitting on the end. For counter- and bar-height seating, people need at least 24" of linear space (for table-height, it's 30"). With someone on the end, consider the fact that they also need that 15" overhang (especially since the island will be so shallow). So, doing the "numbers": Length of island = 9' = 108" ...1.5" overhang on non-seating end of island + 48" of work area/cabinets + 24" for one person + 24" for second person + 15" overhang for person on the end 112.5" (or 9'4.5") This particular issue can be easily remedied by taking 6" away from the "work area" (making it 42"...still a nice size work area) and allocating those 6" to the seating area. What are your aisle widths? That also can be an issue...especially since I worry that your KD may not be "up" on recommended Kitchen Planning Guidelines. Do you have other seating in the kitchen? Would you be willing to post your layout here and see if we can come up with a better solution, including giving you the seating you need or want? No guarantees, of course, but it's an option (and it's free!)...See MoreConifer 8 feet tall and 5 feet wide needed for Zone 6
Comments (6)2 very common conifers from big box stores: dwarf alberta spruce & berckmans gold arborvitae might suit the size you need. Its about $10 now. Theres a price increase of a dollar every year. i inherited a dwarf alberta spruce from the previous owner of my house. My neighbor said its about 20 years old. Its about 8 feet high by 4 feet wide. Doesnt grow any higher since i moved in 4 years ago, but it does grow wider, so i trim it bec its wide for my space. Needs lots of water & it burns easy if its planted close to a wall. The burn is the side facing wall. I dont like it much but if you have space try it....See MoreIs it ok to prune Abraham Darby to keep him at 3.5 feet in zone 5?
Comments (9)In response to your second question, I have The Lark Ascending and I'm becoming quite fond of it, even though I'm not usually a singles fan. It does want to be tall and narrow I think, but last year was only its second year so I can't judge. It has been rock solid hardy and is starting at a healthy 4' for me, but no more than about 2' wide at the outside limits. It puts out a pretty regular series of sunset colored graceful blooms and it plays nicely with just about any other types or colors of roses. I wouldn't call it a favorite, but it's definitely a keeper. The 7' cane doesn't sound too unexpected, but you can always peg it sideways to encourage it to put up laterals if the vertical height is too much where it is. I have some roses at the front of a garden bed that I train the canes along a low scruffy fence in front of them to keep them from blocking the whole fence. In a good year it can be stunning. No help on the fragrance - I have a poor nose for most roses. Cynthia...See Morepowergirl
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