plan for cabinet pulls -- all the same length? opinions, please!
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rookie_2010
14 years agojulie94062
14 years agoHave you picked out your pulls yet? When I was choosing mine, I brought home a few different samples (also different sizes). I thought I would use knobs for the doors and pulls for the doors, but ended up using all pulls because that looked best. If you can't get samples, you can use blue painters tape to mark the location and size of the pulls. I used 4" on almost everything. Your 5" (128mm) would also work, but if you do a mock up, you'll get a better idea.
I put the pulls in the center of the drawer, but it'a a matter of personal preference. The only thing I'd change is the recycling pullout. The cabinet guy put the handle so that it would match the drawers on each side, but I'd rather have it a little higher so that I wouldn't have to bend to grab it. Function over form :-) BTW, the recycling pullout is 18" wide and the drawers on each side are 30", just to give you an idea of proportion.
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14 years agosally123
14 years agoI have 9-foot ceilings with cabinets that go all the way up, so I found that longer pulls looked better. I put only one pull on each drawer, even the ones that are 36 inches. That way they can always be opened with one hand.
I got several samples and had my son hold them up to the cabinets while I took pictures to help me decide.User
14 years agoeastbaymom
14 years agotechmom1
14 years agoTimely thread. I just went through this same thing. I picked up a number of inexpensive pulls in different colors and sizes to get an idea of what it would look like - and ended up using one of those styles - Amerock Westerly in SN. My kitchen is going to be finished up in a few days and I'm planning on putting in all pulls, but like eastbaymom, I thought the larger cabinets deserved larger pulls - so I'm planning using 128mm pulls on my tall upper cabinets and 96 mm pulls on the lower drawers. I'll post pictures when I'm done - here's a picture of my cabinets. (Note - not putting any pulls on the very top glass cabinets - they're just for display.)
Here is a link that might be useful: Westerly Pulls
malhgold
14 years agosally123
14 years agoThanks, eastbaymom. The pulls are 8". The cabinet on the far left is 15". The hood 42". The next cabinet is 39" with 27" exposed, the rest continues on into the blind corner. I have a pot rack in that cabinet and it is 36" wide. The pans I use less frequently go back into the corner. Here it is:
The drawers under the cooktop are 36", the drawers on either side are 18". The paint is called Limestone (Dunn Edwards #6233).
Buehl
14 years agoAs others have said...it's all a matter of personal preference aesthetically. Functionally, it doesn't matter. If you have good hardware on your drawers, you can open even 2-pull drawers with one hand. I do it all the time and have not yet had a problem...even the heavily loaded drawers.
While I did do a mix of knobs and pulls, all my drawers have pulls. I like the look of 2 pulls on the wider drawers and put 2 pulls on all drawers 30" or wider. My pulls are 4" on center.
On all drawers except the double-bin trash pullout, I put the pulls in the middle of the drawers. For the trash pullout, I put the pull in the frame b/c I thought there might be an issue of weight when both bins were full and I thought the frame would be stronger.
Some cabinet closeups so you can see how I placed my pulls.
24" drawers - 1 pull/drawer
33" drawers next to 18" trash pullout w/18" drawer above
malhgold
14 years agofirstmmo
14 years agoThis is definitely another one of those "Tough Struggle within my Mind". I have gone back and forth on this decision.
Buehl mentioned he uses the double--one of the reasons that I like this look is that it makes the lower cabinets look more like a bureau or chest of drawers, a finished piece of furniture. But, I wasn't sure about too many pulls and I was already buying 72 pulls for the kitchen--if I doubled the lowers, oh my the cost. In the end I went with three different sized pulls, all uniform on the lowers (medium), and all uniform on the uppers (smaller). Had no idea I would spend so much time on this too--but finding that perfect piece of hardware that you LOVE is like the cherry on top--it makes the whole room :)
This is the med, but I ended up with the small:
From Menlo Farmhouse
From Menlo Farmhouse
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14 years agojessrae - my backsplash is Carmel Stone Imports, "Time-Worn" series, light travertine. The colors on the sample boards were very uniform. IRL, a lot of variation. That's the nature of natural stone :-)
petepie1
14 years agooldcarrot
14 years agotheanimala
14 years agooldcarrot, we did the Princetonian model by Top Knobs. We did not replace the pulls on our appliances though. Doesn't bother us that they are slightly different but I can totally understand wanting them all to match.
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