What finish of White Dove on cabinets- semiglss, eggshell, satin?

14 years ago

hi, got a question from azwildcats_70 on this and realized i had not figured that out myself- so figured I'd phone a friend...aka, ask GW

so what is better? what are differences?

semi-gloss, egg shell, satin?

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momto4boys

14 years ago

My mother just had her painter use eggshell on her laundry room cabs, and you can see every stroke and flaw. She's having them re painted. We are in the process of using satin (also White Dove) and so far, looks good. It's what our painter suggested. The cabs themselves aren't really shiney or anything, which is what I feared. But, I'll have a better idea when the doors get back to me. We painted the cabs ourselves and painter took doors/drawers off to spray.

Looking at my fan deck, BM goes from flat, eggshell, pearl, satin, semi and high.

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rosiew
14 years ago
Don't know who makes the White Dove, but believe that eggshell and satin are interchangeable terms. I just painted my cabinets with Porter's Glyptex Eggshell. Love the softness of the finish's appearance. HTH, Rosie
chris45ny
14 years ago
I asked DH his opinion. He said in order of shine from lowest to highest-satin, eggshell, semi gloss. Eggshell will hide imperfections best. Semi gloss will be easier to clean. Enamel in these provides a harder finish.
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lauriec
Original Author
14 years ago
hmmmm interesting.. i want a little sheen i think, and easy to clean...so am thinking satin or semi gloss..

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chris45ny
14 years ago
DH who is a painting contractor and member of Allied Painters and Trades said different manufacturers will have differences in the "shine" category. In other words, BM's eggshell could be different than Glidden's or SW's. Also a lot depends on how good your painter is. A pro should not leave any brush strokes, etc. Even with spraying, you have to know how to use an easy hand with the sprayer so that it all looks even.

For a little shine and easy to clean-satin, eggshell or semi will be fine. It really is a matter of preference.
rhome410
14 years ago
Is this enamel? I didn't know you could get paint appropriate for cabinets in that many finishes. We used BM Satin Impervo enamel (oil based in the kitchen and acrylic 'waterborne' for the upstairs builtins) specified for interior woodwork, which, of course, was satin.
robe75
14 years ago
We're in the process of painting our kitchen cabinets now but with BM Aura (Dove Wing). The BM guy told us to use Satin, and I thought I've read in multiple threads here that Satin is most common, but of course it's your preference.
Lisa B.
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Just finished having our cabinets painted BM White Dove using the waterborne Impervo in Satin finish. I love the way they look! Stayed away from the oil based due to the fact that it can yellow over time; this wouldn't be an issue if you were using a dark color, but something to consider if you're going with something as light as White Dove.
prill
14 years ago
Mine are the same as cupcake - White Dove Satin Impervo. You can see the finish here.
lauriec
Original Author
14 years ago
prill, lovely! nice sheen.

and what is that lovely backsplash (and of course, what counters.)

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rnest44
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I chose Aura White Dove satin for my 30 year old dark stained cabinets and primed with an oil base primer first. Just a touch of grain shows through which is the look I wanted. I love how smooth they feel with just the slightest hint of sheen to reflect light.

I do think it's personal preference b/c I received different answers at the three BM stores I frequent. The people at each store did say to mix up the paint finishes within a room. So I'll use a different sheen for the walls.

I'm using Ben eggshell White Dove for a storage closet and I like the way that rolls on too.
prill
14 years ago
Laurie - thanks - The backsplash is Winchester tile from England. Sudbury is the color -

My counters are soapstone. Thanks!

Here is a link that might be useful: Winchester tile

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