Thanks for the responses yall. For those of you who are looking at my list for the purpose of picking roses for dry areas, the ones that are doing amazingly well are the must haves: Sombreuil Baronne Prevost Cecile Brunner Teasing Georgia (Daivd Austin) Reine De Violettes These roses have not blinked an eye. And I am shocked at the constant growth and blooming of Baronne Prevost. Truly a beginners rose!!! But, Teasing Georgia must go down in history as one of the greatest modern imitaters of an OGR, and in such an unusual color. Sombreuil? I just think it is the Sir Anthony Hopkins of the rose world - one class act! And, Reine des VIolettes? The fragrance makes it give Madame Isaac Perriere (She didnt make it) a run for the money But, if you live in a dry alkaline soiled area, go with these as well, you wont abuse them like mine were: antique teas like: Monsier Tillier ( a mack truck) Duchesse De Brabant - amazing amazing.... or chinas like Mutabilis on a northern wall (requires some water)and Old Blush And, all you beginners should get yourselves a Belinda's Dream rose, even though it is not an OGR. Hope this helps. Its just my opinion! Also, in answer to questions, Pauls Himilayan Musk was one I had great hope for. But, it was 4 yrs old and just getting started on its cluimb. A very very slow starter....If you want instant gratification and flowers, better go with Cl. Cecile Brunner - the everblooming variety , if you can find it. And, the only noisette I grew was Crepuscule,and it was gorgeous! And, I had it in a shady spot on the wall of my house. I have a beautiful photo of it if anyone wants to see it. It did not make it. Noisettes do well in the south, but they are tender roses.

Got to wonder after playing the game before and watching the game while others play, why people like James last time and Ozzy wouldn't feel the vibe in the air that there number could be up and use the darn idol. Ozzy even debated doing it early in the day, but didn't pay close enough attention to what was going on around camp to catch on that they were gunning for him. I like Ozzy, but that was a stupid, stupid move. Yummy man James best watch out now, those women are ruthless and they'll be wanting him gone next. Jason was an idiot for putting his game on the line for some pizza and such. But shame on Cirie and the other girl for crossing their fingers like a couple of 1st graders. Eliza's facial expressions at tribal council were pretty priceless, too. Suzan J

I liked Boston Rob too. He has played a more mature game this time. I think Russell is a good player, but not the best of all time. He's a troll. He has had an advantage in that he has been able to see how the other players played in their seasons, but the other players did not see how he played in his season. Although I think Russell would be deserving of a win, I don't want him to win. His social game isn't good. That is why the other girl won last season. I had read a spoiler last week that someone has leaked the correct boot order for all of the players so far. Boston Rob was the predicted boot for this week. I believe the same person also said that Parvarti is good friends with someone who works for the show and may have had information about Russell that the other players do not have. As goofy as Coach is, I sort of like him this season.

I liked the end Dave spoke it well. It was definitely a well played game by Rob. The $100K Well........Jeff "Ambers' going shopping." Rob "~~~Oh yeah." LOL I sure would if I were in her place. Matt probably could have used it but his constant whinge proselytizing was not playing the game it was just whining about his lot and giving God all the responsibility to take care of him. Someone ought to tell him God helps those who help themselves. Love his hair cut. He is a handsome guy. Many of the guys were handsome or cute to some degree even Ralph 'cleaned up' had sparkling eyes and a boyish grin under that umm? facial hair. Russel and Phillip just looked icky/creepy/sneaky to me. Natalie She got her staying in the game so long money and had to do absolutely squat but use ROB to keep her there since she wasn't playing she wasn't a threat. I loved that "I used my strength of Social Skills." comment she made. Social skills to use people doesn't get you winning votes and the judges saw through her so well. Julie did drop the hammer a little hard. The kid was only doing what she knows to be in the game. Phillip????? He caught on he was only left because Rob knew no one would vote for him. He got his staying in the game so long money and I think that is the biggest reason he went along with Rob. He knew he would never win no matter how he played the game. His personality was awful even in the reunion show. Will Phillip ever answer a question without babbling nonsense? Will he ever shut up period? OMG burning those awful undies I wanted to gag. Had I been there I would have been WAY UP WIND! I don't think I have ever had the 'ewww my skin is trying to crawl away from that guy' feeling from a person on TV before. I'm still ewww when I think of him! The Former Federal Agent crap was a dominant issue in the reunion too. Proof or not still doesn't mean he is sane or in any way capable of being a stable dependable friend/person or fedderal agent. The supposed proof Begs the Question "WHY "Former" Federal Agent?" Usually death is responsible for folk leaving a federal agency's employment. A lot of benefits to keep them working until old age. Unless they are kicked out for being WACKO or they retire by age or request (usualy infractions of rules and regs constantly over and over will cause a request for leaving or firing). We still don't know what branch of the Federal Government besides FBI CIA AND other Security agencies USPS workers are Federal agents too! They have badges and take training. LOL Well fall is only a few months away. Enjoy what the summer season has to offer. LIL