I am in central Iowa Ken, I am sure there was only one school blueprint for the midwest in the 50's. But it is nice to have it back there, it is kind of like having a great big yard to play in, that someone else mows. Thus I can keep planting hostas and trees on my half acre until the grass is gone. :) Ok, this conifer thing....what is amend the planting hole? What is plant properly? You might as well give the whole lecture if I am about to start over. I like the weirder the better, but I want the tree by the house to be somewhat upright. And if I planted it straight, it would be even more crooked, straight out of the pot the top pointed at a 45 degree angle if not more. The person we bought it from told us to stake it to make it go straight. I was so overwhelmed by all the choices when we left there I couldn't remember how they said to stake it. Now you tell me not to stake it. Feeling overwhelmed again. LOL So the one in the back, I would gladly let it be as weird as it wants to be, but I just thought i am going to have a whole tree on the ground if I didn't try to get that top branch to go up a bit initially. So I am still confused..... And the rabbit comment, don't get me started on the bunnies! The bunnies didn't do that, but if you could see what all they have done to my clematis and the hostas, you would know that there is a war going on here. I wouldn't be so upset, but they don't even eat them, just chew the leaves off and drop them on the ground. And the clematis they eat to the ground early in the spring, and now they are just chewing the stems in two on the ones that did make it up the fence. I am one of four girls, and I always joked about being my Dad's only boy. I was the one that went hunting and fishing with him. So my DH, who didn't grow up doing any of that, was shocked at what a good shot his wife is. I have tried spray, and still spray, I have put bloodmeal under the gazebo, pirate ship and deck along with moth balls, and I have a live trap. But now that school is out, my Dad's pellet gun and I have moved 8 bunnies out of the neighborhood for good. So they had better not touch my trees. Our little town is overrun with rabbits. Ok, I know now Ken is going to tell me that I am reminding him of Caddyshack and the gofer thing. I am now awaiting further instructions....

Mine grows like that as well but there is a main stem that is much thicker then the others. I haven't bothered pruning mine but do lift the vines an attach them to a trellis. Mine is only about 4 or 5 years old. The local nature center has several growing over a large pergola and they are pruned to a single lower main stem, actually a trunk, because it's several inches in diameter. They allow them to branch when they reach near the top of the pergola. I have no idea how old their vines are but it looks beautiful.

Sorry about not checking back sooner. Many thanks to everyone for your answers. I had entered the website's name in Google, kudzu9 - but not the word "scam" along with it. Of course what came back to me was all the wonderful stuff written by the website itself. Thank you for supplying the missing link, kudzu9. Looks like I shall be installing WOT. Thank you EmmaR and owbist (And I will be spam checking for a while.) Now for some worry-free playing.

I learned about that years ago, I lost $40. on a game I bought for myself and my sister. My information never matched what they had on their records. They helped me once, then it happened again I just wrote it off as a learning experience. I buy all my games retail, none online. That is why it irritates me that they still can plant cookies when I don't even visit their site. Iwin games are terrible about forcing you to use their game manager and go on line when you play. I emailed them and was told how to avoid the game manager and the connection. I still got their cookies so I put the url address in privacy/exceptions/block. No more cookies. Doesn't work for alawar.