Ultimate Horrible Painting Day - Please Answer! Help.

15 years ago

OMG I am so sore head to toe - I have been painting like crazy all last night and all day today only to completely hate the results. Did I mention I am painting cabinetry so it is a massive understaking!

So I was looking for a cream color - got a yellow color - it looked terrible! Oh did I also mention it is oil paint - hate it...never use the stuff again.

So I have an oil based primer and I just went and primed over all my work to remove the yellow (I could have cried!).

Here is my question.

If I primed with an oil primer does that mean for my next color it has to be oil paint or can I put latex paint over an oil primer?

Thanks so much

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gigib_08
15 years ago
On Colorsplash yesterday they said you can put an oil over a latex, but never a latex over an oil. Sorry! Maybe others will have some suggestions for you.
ummm
15 years ago
you can also try posting in the paint forum.
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brutuses
15 years ago
You can put a latex over an oil, but have to first put Kilz as a binder so the latex will adhere.
bronwynsmom
15 years ago
Oh, how infuriating for you!
I know just what you mean...we used a gorgeous ivory inside our house, and I wanted the same color outside. I came home the first day of finish coating, and the side of my house was yellow! I made my darling painters come right down off the ladders! They mixed the color half and half with white, and it was perfect,
Some oil primers are designed to hold either oil or latex paint. The reason that latex shouldn't be painted over oil paint is that it won't adhere, and forms a rubbery film that peels off.
Ask your paint store what your primer is good for. And if it won't hold latex, I think you have to bite the bullet, or the results will drive you nuts when it starts to peel.
Having said that, ask your question on the paint forum. Things are changing so fast in the paint world that there may be a product that will do what you need it to do without sending you 'round the bend!
Good luck!
TxMarti
15 years ago
My dh, paint expert, says it is no problem to use latex over oil primer, in fact, that is the proper way to do it. Good luck with your project.
lucillle
15 years ago
Haley I can't help with answers, but I'm glad you have what it takes to go ahead and do it again after such a horrible painting day. I hope it is beautiful for you, the next time.

Maybe eat some chocolate bunnies, chocolate is a wonderful panacea.
Rudebekia
15 years ago
I'm painting a dining room built in this week, and an experienced painter told me to use an oil primer under the latex paint. So I know it can be done.
patricianat
15 years ago
* Posted by marti8a (My Page) on
Sun, Apr 12, 09 at 18:08

My dh, paint expert, says it is no problem to use latex over oil primer, in fact, that is the proper way to do it. Good luck with your project.

Good information and correct information.
kfca37
15 years ago
Yes, you can use latex paint over an oil primer.

On the other hand I have used latex paint directly over oil-based enamel---w/out a primer, w/out a problem, BUT you have to carefully sand every inch to remove ALL the gloss of the oil-base paint. But you're supposed to do that anyway for a smooth job.
mclarke
15 years ago
You can put latex over oil, but it would be wise to sand it lightly first.

If the oil is gloss (is it?) you will have to sand it very well, or else use a chemical deglosser, so the latex will have a surface to bind to.
ronbre
15 years ago
gotta do oil..sorry..or remove it all..worse..use the oil..think your color through really well..
haley_comet
Original Author
15 years ago
Thanks everyone for your input - your all so great!

Well I took the plunge last night and repainted everything again till the weeeeeee hours of the morning and it looks so nice now.

So I am happpy to say that the latex paint over the oil based primer worked wonderfully and adhered to a strong finish.

My ridicous ugly yellow cabinets are now a beautiful bone ivory!

Boy cabinetry is not a paint job you want to get the color wrong on I tell ya!

Will post pics in a day or two once the finishing touches are done.

Thanks again.
Cheers
Haley
mpwdmom
15 years ago
Most painters I know (pros) say no to a latex over oil.
Faron79
15 years ago
Latex PAINT over Oil-PRIMER is...
Just fine.

Especially on exteriors...it's a preferred method.

If "Pro's" are saying NO to latex over oil PRIMER...they're no "Pro"...
* Almost EVERY Oil primer says Latex is fine on top.
However >>>>> If it's a GLOSS Oil, it HAS to be sanded to "dull" the sheen, and create a surface-profile for new Latex.
* Preferably though...SAND the Oil paint to dull; Prime with EITHER Oil or Latex; then PAINT with Latex topcoats.

At our store...we can't afford to give bad advice.
We go thru hundreds & hundreds & hun....... of gal's/year.

Faron
sweetrain
15 years ago
Latex over oil primer is fine. Remember it's PRIMER not paint. But never ever try to paint latex over oil PAINT. If you do don't try to wash it cuz it will just rub off.

The key word here is PRIMER not paint. Primer is primer, paint is paint, two different things. My DH has never heard of a primer with a sheen, he says thats the paints job. DUH!

My DH comes from a painting family. Been in business for over 50 years. So I'm hoping that FIL and DH have learned SOMETHING over the years. LOL
kfca37
15 years ago
Who was talking about a "primer with a sheen"?
I again state that you don't need a primer between oil & latex paint IF you sand off all the gloss/sheen of the old oll-based paint. Saved me one extra "paint" (however you want to define the word) coating job. I have a whole house, including a kitchen which I often wash down, using that exact method.

In spite of the extra work, I still much prefer an oil-base paint finish, but bcause its white yellows, I only use it when I paint with colors.
TxMarti
15 years ago
Sweetrain:
"Latex over oil primer is fine. Remember it's PRIMER not paint. But never ever try to paint latex over oil PAINT. If you do don't try to wash it cuz it will just rub off.

The key word here is PRIMER not paint. Primer is primer, paint is paint, two different things. My DH has never heard of a primer with a sheen, he says thats the paints job. DUH!

My DH comes from a painting family. Been in business for over 50 years. So I'm hoping that FIL and DH have learned SOMETHING over the years. LOL"

Yep, exactly right. My dh has been in the paint biz for 32 years both as painter and manufacturer's rep and that is the recommended way.

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