Infinity Edge pool construction - The Happy Ending
Good morning pool forum friends,
THE PEBBLESHEEN TRUCK IS HERE!
I think I'm going to faint. We are actually doing the Pebblesheen today - this is so hard to believe. It will be one year this Friday since we signed the original contract. I am SO EXCITED, this is like Christmas :). They had called late Friday saying the Pebblesheen for today was canceled due to some problems with the height of the shotcrete on the Infinity Edge (you can imagine how well this went over with us). After much discussion, my husband and I were able to do the work ourselves on Saturday and keep the Pebblesheen schedule for today. All is well again.
Here's my first pictures for the day -
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riesenschwimmer
15 years agosmbnobles
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Comments (4)I don't believe it "standard" but it certainely doesn't hurt. Most people don't really run their negative edge pumps more than a couple of hours a day, unless they are having a party or something because the water running over the wall, and the pump operation consumes a lot of energy. Also neg edge troughs typically pull off bottom suctions to there isn't that much debris that ends up back in the pool....See Moreinfinity edge question
Comments (11)just-a-pb...thanks for clarifying. Makes sense now, on a bigger pool, say greater than 60K gallons, a second filter makes sense to help with the dirt load and turnovers with low speed pumps. There's just not enough hours in the day to turnover larger pools with low flow rates to save energy. For our modest 40K pool, I only need to run the circulation pump at low speed for about 18 hours during the swim season to take care of turnovers and filtering...no need for a second filter and pump. Our negative edge pump only runs for a couple hours per day during the weekdays and off-season and 5-10 hours per day during the swim season and weekends when we tend to swim for longer periods. I should have clarified my post also regarding returning diry water to the pool...this only happens for as long as it takes to carry the water held in the basin to the main pool...after that it's carrying clean and chlorinated water to the pool. Using your logic...one could also argue for a chlorine generator on the negative edge pump in addition to a filter to prevent dirty, unsanitized water from being returned to the pool....just my perspective for what it's worth. For larger pools, I agree with a second filter and pump to save energy during low speed circulating and filtering. If you have a negative edge pool, it makes perfect sense to put that filter on the negative edge circuit. I would also say that for larger pools, the placement of a secondary chlorine generator may also be needed and placing it on the negative edge circuit would also make sense. For smaller pools with a negative edge, like mine, the need for a second filter is not necessary and placing one on the negative edge circuit is overkill in my opinion. I can see the argument either way though....See MoreFinally a happy ending for after the fact pool lights
Comments (1)I love happy endings! That's a beautiful pool! Congrats on your new lights, you must love them....See Moreinfinity edge engineering and plumbing
Comments (15)The only compelling argument I've heard to have a separate filter for the negative edge is if the pool is large enough (>50K gallons) to require the use of 2 pumps to get adequate turns per day for chlorination and filtration at lower, more energy efficient speeds. Our pool is 35K gallons and only has 1 main filter..no filter for the infinity edge circuit. We have to run the main circulation pump for 20 hours per day in the summer to get adequate chlorination and filtration at low speed on our 2 speed pump. If our pool were larger, we would have likely added another filter and chlorinator and it would have been logical to add it to the infinity edge circuit. Another thing to keep in mind...the addition of another filter and chlorinator doubles the maintenance and replacement expense down the road in addition to initial installation expense. With only one filter, we've had no problems with the infinity edge pit water clarity or cleanliness...it gets turned over 10x per day using another 2 speed pump for the infinity edge which pulls water from the pit and provides water to our waterfalls as well as 4 returns in the main pool. Agree with the other posters....the engineering of the wall and plumbing is highly dependent on the specific design of each pool and how the pool sits on the site. Also, the sizing of the pit is critical along with the adjustment of the autofill level in the pit. Think of the pit as a surge tank with widely varying water levels throughout the day....tile the first 12" or so of the top of the pit rather than just 6" as is normal for the rest of the pool. This will allow the level of the pit to be adjusted lower via the autofill setting so that water loss out the overflow is minimized during surges. When surging is not happening, the extra 6" of tile will ensure the plaster is not exposed for long durations when splash out is not happening and the water level is lower. Surge levels can be minimized by making the pit larger and this is where each PB may differ on how the pits are sized in relation to the main pool area. The larger the main pool area, the larger the pit will have to be sized to accomodate splash out. Think of pit size in terms of inches of water lost from the main pool and resulting volume that ends up in the pit and you'll start to get an idea of how the two are related to each other. Lastly, surge level can be minimized by running the infinity edge pump at higher speeds. This will keep the water moving faster from the pit to the main pool when lots of splashing is occuring. Occasionally, we'll turn our infinity edge pump on high speed during parties when lots of jumping, diving and splashing is occuring. The additional people in the pool also displaces water from the main pool into the pit, so this should also be considered when sizing the pit. Also, remember that filters and chlorinators reduce efficiency of circuits, especially at higher pump speeds. This is another reason not to install a filter or chlorinator on the infinity edge circuit if high speed operation is expected. Some people like the sheeting of negative edges..especially when the water sheet is highly visible (like lakeside lots)...sheeting requires high pump speeds, so desired use of the infinity edge should also be considered in overall design. Our negative edge was primarily for the negative edge reflections and views and not so much the water sheet wow factor...your specific needs may vary. Hope this helps....See Moredonnawb
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15 years agoOk, so SORRY! I cannot pull myself away from the WATER - WATER! It's 112 again today and couldn't resist just plunking my buns down smack in the middle of it. I'm going to be sitting out there all night, I can just see the headlines tomorrow " 45 year old pulled from pool a shriveled mess". It's going to get ugly :). OK, the water trucks have been here, but it is an agonizingly slow process. Three hours round trip between loads. AAAAAAUGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH. The driver will go until he drops, about 9 p.m. tonight. That means that the final load will come tomorrow morning. How much more can a birdbath take??????? Tomorrow morning? OK, so we'll have to wait to see the Infinity Edge. Sigh. In the meantime, we're still siphoning water from our well and the neighbors. We are SO going to owe him "Hey, can I borrow a cup of sugar and 10,000 gallons of water?". Gotta love it. Here's the latest pics. I've GOT to get back outside. By the way, this color is great - even with all of the major gooky coming out of the pipes from sitting for a year. Can't wait to see it after it clears up. Jerseymom - You crack me up! So sorry it took me a while to post....it's just the Coronas, and the sun, and the beautiful
W-A-T-E-R. This whole process would just be so much simpler if all of you could just join me at the Blue Gecko bar and grill tonight!! I would love to have all of you here. We are having an impromptu party. Come on over! Oh.... and bring water..........
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15 years agolol!lol! Hello! :)
A piece of advice to new pool owners -YOU WILL BE TEMPTED TO PARTY UNTIL THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT AFTER YOUR POOL IS COMPLETE. DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT SUCCUMB TO THIS TEMPTATION. :)
I'm finally alive again and the pool is FULL!! WHOO HOO! I climbed up a ladder (not easy today for a variety of reasons :)) to take these pics for all of you. We had to get all of the pumps running, my husband couldn't stand to wait for the plumber tomorrow. I, personally, would have just been content to sit in a dark, cool corner nursing my head with an aspirin and water :). We really love the Ocean Blue color. Earlier this morning it looked like a mirror out there, now the sun is directly overhead and it looks like a deep, clear blue. I wish all of you could come over and join us!
Here's the pic from the top step of the ladder...
My son enjoying the Infinity Edge......
This is the view standing down inside the BBQ kitchen....
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15 years agoI just wanted to say THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for posting your pictures. I am not sure if you come back to this site anymore but your pool inspired our design and we are going to put that cool little pool into our design too. I spoke to our PB on Friday and he said it could be done!! YIPPPPEEEEE. I hope your pool makes it into one of those wonderful pool idea books!
Katherine
Here is our old pool design and below is my sketch of the new design. I put the elevated Baja shelf with spillover on the right and moved the fountain to the left by our existing patio! I can't wait to get started and post pix too!
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New design courtesy of your wonderful pool:
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