Are State Select water heaters good? How long/much to install?
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Comments (3)Contrary to what your plumber told you this a residential heater. I purchased a 40 gal Turbo 25 yrs ago on the advice of a few plumber friends. It was made by State and probably the best appliance I've ever purchased. Not cheap but it was worth every penny. The design was similar, it had a coil in the tank that preheated the water which dumped out on the bottom of the tank. This keeps the tank clear of sentiments thus maintaining efficiency and extending tank life. That tank is still running flawlessly today. Here is a link http://www.statewaterheaters.com/lit/media/catalogs/res-catalog.pdf Another major benefit , we never ran out of hot water. Two adults and three children...See MoreHow long does it take a new water heater to heat up?
Comments (22)alisande, I'll have to admit, as the new information comes to light, it does raise some questions in my thinking. However, from what you describe so far, I suspect you are ok for the moment. Your original problem seems to have been air in the system as the others described. However, and only going by your description and no technical data, it did appear to take more time to bring the water to a temperature you were satisfied with. After you readjusted the thermostat it appeared to be more to your liking. My conclusion is, your cousin didn't run the water temperature as high as you do. Maybe he has kids he doesn't want to scald themselves, maybe it was to save energy, whatever his reasons. A 50 gallon tank is a pretty good sized tank for 1 person and I think if you kept the temp around 115-120 degrees, you wouldn't run out of hot water if everything is working fine. But again, there are good reasons to run the temp. higher. My advice at this point pretty much follows your line of thinking. If everything is to your satisfaction, there's nothing to fix. Let us know if anything new develops, the more information you can give up front, the better answers you will get. I think most of the folks here gave you enough info. that you know several areas to look or have someone to look at to do some trouble shooting before blowing the whistle. You'll eventually be the hot water expert in your area. As for Iris, there are 3 reasons for the tag. Making a living these days requires a job and as many hustles as one can handle. 1-I grow approx. 3 acres of rare types of Bearded Iris. Many get sold, many get processed for the perfume industry and many get processed as medicinal Oris Root. Motion photography and filming is another area of endeavor. Someone touched on another area in one of the forums so I figured they must have known me. Now of course there is no way for me to spend full time in all these areas and my profession also so others now actually work them. I just usually pi$$ them off from time to time when I come around and start playing with stuff since to me, these are hobbies....See Morestate water heater prices
Comments (20)We have a house that made it difficult to place the water heater directly next to where the hot water would get used. When we had a tankless heater, things never quite worked well. That's really the biggest issue about future proofing. You want short runs for your water pipes and you want them sized correctly for the anticipated use. I think some of our pipes were actually too big, and that just aggravated the problem of having to wait for hot water. Good insulation for hot-water pipes is also a great idea. Neither oversized nor undersized pipes are good. A recirculation pump is cheap and easy to install. It works much better though, if there is a dedicated return pipe for the circulating water. That's something that gets installed during the initial construction phase. If you don't have the return pipe, you need to use the cold water pipe for circulation. That has potential downsides. Also, when you install the recirculation pump, consider installing an extra backflow preventer valve next to the pump. Many pumps are supposed to have them included; but I found that those internal valves don't always work. And you end up with mysteriously malfunctioning hot water supply. You get hot water instantaneously for a while, and then it gets cold and later hot again. The valve fixes that. You likely will need an expansion tank for your hot water in order for all of this to work correctly. Don't skimp on that. Again, it's super easy to install, if you plan in advance. The biggest issue is allocating a little space for it. Personally, I wasn't too impressed by our tankless heater. But then, our house probably had some unique challenges. I am much happier with our high-powered boiler and indirect tank. And your idea of getting the high-powered State water heater sounds as if it'll give you something very similar. The advantage with our current solution is that it is low maintenance and is expected to live much longer than 10 years, if occasional repairs are performed. A regular water heater can have an extended life if you regularly maintain it (i.e. replace the sacrificial anode). But once it breaks it can't be fixed. So, there is some advantage to getting the fancier equipment, if you don't want to think about the hassle of having to replace a broken appliance. Whatever you do, get a drain pan that is connected to some sort of standpipe. Water heaters frequently spring leaks at the end of their life....See MoreState vs Bradford White electric hot water heater?
Comments (8)Since this is being covered by my home warranty I can't change the size. I am currently the only one using the unit but that will increase to 2 people but no more than that. I take really long showers and have been ok with hot water so far. I've heard that Bradford White is a good brand but haven't really heard anything about the State brand. I searched online and most ppl say BW is better. I just want to make sure I'm not getting cheated especially since it is a warranty call. Say they install the State and it fails in 5 years and I have to pay out of pocket to replace it all over again vs paying a little more now for the BW and it lasting 10 years. I plan to be in this place long term. Again, I don't know how much more the BW will be. The dispatcher said it wasn't an option since the diameters are 20-22" and wouldn't leave enough space between the wall. I called BW and they only have 1 30 gallon model and its 20" compared to the State they're going to use that is 19". After I hear back from you guys I'll ask the plumber for the State model number so I can look up the yellow tag and get info on the energy usage. I've already called them about 20 times to get this approved/resolved. What do you think?...See Morebpchiil
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