New Pool in AZ - Help with Design/Quote (Sanity Check)
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I've used GW forums for complete renovation of home and pool in So Cal a few years back. Now I am looking to build a pool in AZ. Have first quote and would like to get help and advice regarding what's really needed (good equipment etc) versus nice to have. I'm on a budget and really want a good size pool with baja shelf to swim and play, less concerned about the pool design add ons (waterfalls and trying to make it look like I'm not in the desert). Design is geometric (basic rectangle 15x30). My complication is removal of rocks, requiring fill, leveling of the lot prior to excavation for pool. PB has taken into consideration that pre-work of lot will be done prior to them coming in to do pool dig.
Quote is as follows:
Engineering & Permit:
*Custom Engineered Plan for Structural Integrity
*Permit Approval Sub-Total $843.60
Excavation: Backhoe
*Backhoe Excavation Equipment
*Forming of Pool/Spa & Pre-Grading for Deck Sub-Total $1,791.25
Plumbing:
58 ft. of Main Plumbing Run
*Vacuum Line & Skimmer/ Main Drain Line for Suction on Filter Pump
*4 Surface Returns
*Automatic Waterleveler and install Vac-Breaker Sub-Total $1,619.56
Steel Reinforcing:
*Steel Reinforcing per Engineering Requirements
*Steel every 6" OC Vertical for Extra Reinforcement Sub-Total $1,394.28
Electrical:
*Total Feet of Electrical Conduit includes, 228 ft of 3/4 in.
*GFCI Breaker for 1-400W Clear Light(s) with 45 ft. of Conduit
*E-Command Control Sub-Panel (Hayward)
*Electrical Connection of Pump(s) & Light(s) Sub-Total $2,768.77
Equipment: Vacuum & Return
*525 sqft Cartridge Filter & Variable Eco-Star Filter Pump (Hayward)
*$200 Variable Speed Pump Rebate from SRP/APS -$200.00
*Navigator Suction Vacuum Cleaner (Hayward)
*Aerator & Floating Chlorinator
*Pool Skimmer (Hayward)
*Heat Pump 108-11 OK BTU's(Hayward) Sub-Total $6,274.05
Shotcrete:
*12" Perimeter Beam with 6-8" Walls and Floor of Shotcrete
*Depths 3 ft. to 6 ft.
*Initial Water-Cure of Shell by BUYER Sub-Total $5,757.79
Tile/Waterfall :
*Waterline Tile for Pool/Spa from Standard Selection
*Tile Face of Back and Side Walls to match Waterline Tile Sub-Total $2,148.13
Decking:
*1 078 sqft of Pavers
*Sleeves Included:
*Umbrella/Volleyball (2) Sub-Total $8,379.75
Interior Finish Mini Pebble Standard
& Start-Up:
*Mini Pebble Standard Material for Pool Interior
*Acid Wash & Clean-Up
*Operator's Orientation
*1 Free Filter Cleaning 6 months -1 year after start-up Sub-Total $4,179.46
Total Before Sales Tax: $34,956.65
Applicable Sales Tax: $ 1,837.78
Total With Sales Tax: $ 36,794.43
Options:
*Upgrade Cleaning System to In-Floor Cleaning with 20 In-Floor Heads (Paramount) Adds $2,785.76
*Upgrade Pool Light to ColorLogic LED Adds $386.48
*Upgrade Control to P-4 Control Sub-Panel with Salt Chlorinating Cell Adds $797.67
*Add Ultra-Violet Sanitation System (Trident) Adds $743.51
*Upgrade Pavers to Travertine or Artistic Pavers Adds $2,460.30
*Add 145' of 5' Wrought Iron Fence and 2 Self-Closing Self-Latching Gates & Door Alarm Adds $4,061.69
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