Gel Stain Hell
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Gel Stain Cabinets - stain coming off when sanding Top coat
Comments (11)Thank so much everyone for helping !! I had a minor set back with Christmas ( was DEFINITELY the wrong time of year for me to have started this project : ) So the reason I was sanding ( after the 2nd coat of Arm R Seal ) is because: 1. that is what the guy at general finishes told me to do 2. it is what I have read several times now on different web sites what other people were doing 3. I had few very tiny tiny tiny bubbles ( I read that this was because when I applied the top coat I guess my "swipes" were to fast allowing some air to get in ?? not sure ) and when I say "sand" I mean I literally took a sheet of 400 and just barely "kissed" the top of the door ( because I was terrified of scratching my finish ) Every single coat I have done on these doors has had at least 3 days of drying time ( and almost 2 weeks for stain it self ) I used the Arm R Seal because that is also what they told me at general finishes. And I was told 3-4 coats ( which the thought of makes me want to set all of these cabinets on fire right now ! : ) Since they are going in the kitchen with 4 kids I assumed I needed as much protection as possible. AND THANK YOU "BROWNEYES" SO MUCH for your SUPPORTIVE KIND WORDS !! I really needed to hear that right now. I don't think my husband ( or anyone who has not gone through this experience ) has ANY IDEA what a NIGHTMARE this is !! Anyway... I am in the middle of the job, have -- 33 CABINETS and Drawers -- a torn up kitchen and can't stop now. I just emailed the General Finishes guy my photos and he is going to call me soon. I just wanted to post to thank everyone for helping, supporting ! and just in case anyone else has my same issue should they choose to go down the infamous " Java Gel Stain" path :) Here is a side by side photo of the "sanded / chipped door" and one on the right that had not been sanded. ( The color is of course EXACTLY the same just different lighting in my dining room and kitchen ) Thanks again to all - so much appreciated...See MoreStaining kitchen and bath cabinets - gel or real stain?
Comments (4)Thanks - so if you sand unevenly even slightly will the amount that soaks in (or not soaks in) cause uneven staining? Seems like it would, so then the difference in prep work would be just roughing up the surface for gel and sanding down to bare wood for stain perhaps? These are the cabinets we're thinking about doing - same ones in all bathrooms too - so we would start on one of those first to test it out. Yes that bathroom is hideous - we are just buying this house and will fix it up....See MorePlans to Gel Stain cabinets in new house...
Comments (4)Yes, those are oak cabinets and the hissy fit your DH had, may have been a good hissy fit. Covering oak cab with paint is a long, long, ardious process to try to cover the grain and texture of the oak. Gel stain will work wonderfully. Directions... 1. Sand. 120 grit 2. scrub 3. sand again lightly 4. wipe the cabs down with a denatured alcohol one brand is called klen strip 5. Paint a single light coat of oil-based wood conditioner This is one way to help make sure the stain goes on to the oak evenly. You can use a paintbrush. Do this about 1 hour before staining. 6. Use a sponge or cloth to put the gel stain on. You can rub it on but it will be very dark. Relax, the color will lighten as you go but know that it will feel super rich, thick and dark. Work it slowly into the wood. Spreading the color as you cover the wood. Follow the grain of the wood. Let the stain dry and put on another coat. 7. Use a top coat. I am told Miniwax has a great top coat. You may need to let the top coat dry over night and at least 2 maybe 3 coats. Oh wait you said you like GF. They have a great top coat too. I would also recommend you take the cabinets down and do this huge project in the garage with the doors up. Get lots of fresh air. Here are a few GW links.. I know the titles sound scary but knowledge is power. Once you know the worst you can handle and turn it into the best. : ) Gel Stain Uneven on First Coat: HELP! http://www.thathomesite.com/forums/load/wood/msg040130294398.html?6 What finish over poly gel stain? http://www.thathomesite.com/forums/load/wood/msg051117381161.html?6 Gel Stain Help - big project! http://www.thathomesite.com/forums/load/decor/msg051057405129.html?14 And lastly, hang in there. It is a hard project but you will be saving lots and lots of money. The cabs you have are in good shape and you are recycling them. All good. Keep reminding yourself that you are saving money. Put the radio on while you work, if you prefer a book on tape, talk radio or something to keep you going through the process. It will get done and you will be so very proud of yourself. ~boxer Here is a link that might be useful: Gel Stain Hell (igloo chic's post 2008)...See MoreGel stain or regular stain?
Comments (32)The GF gel stain can said 8 hours drying time between first and second coat. I waited 24 and it felt quite dry. I didn't think my layer was particularly thick. Sigh. Meanwhile, everything has been stripped off and I'm down to bare wood. Wiped off well with mineral spirits. Needless to say, the grain has been raised and I need to do some sanding. Tomorrow, after everything dries out and the smell of the thinner dissipates. I found a piece of unfinished wood of unknown species in my garage. I used a foam brush to apply a thin layer of gel stain. Yeah, I know, never again. :) I wiped it down before it set up. I will let that sucker cure 48 hours and then I'll put on another thin layer and see what happens. At this point I still don't know why I would want to use gel stain over GF regular oil stain. Is it ease of application? Thick and pudding-like, not runny? Because I don't need to cover or hide. I just want a nice rich deep color through which the grain is evident....See Morekitchendetective
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