Thank you for so much info.....I noticed though that your high energy dogs eats alot more than two cups per day while the low energy dogs eat as much as toots. Tootsie while a bulldog which is known for their low energy is actually quite energetic.....we have to walk her everyday and play with her for several hours otherwise she goes crazy...you can actually see the pent up energy in her when she sits still too long....she is also a jumper (just not on command)and while she runs around the yard she also jumps up on the chairs and tables. (she's allowed). People at the bullympics this weekend said they had never seen a bully run like her before. I do agree with you though...there probably is not much difference between a four star and six star for most dogs....bullies are known as medical nightmares though so we are trying to do the absolute best for her and since we can afford it we do. Toots is actually quite funny to watch as she takes her toys and throw them herself sometime to go after...she is also one of the few bullies from what I've heard who will play fetch.....her breeder actually said we should train her for agility competitions....but we're not show people. I'd be curious to see how much she eats when she slows down a bit.

Hi Susan, I guess it depends on what is in the food you feed now. See which one best matches the criteria that The Whole Dog Journal uses to judge foods. I know that the foods that meet these criteria are more expensive. Here is a portion of an article that Patches123 posted in the Iams thread: We look for foods that contain a lot of high-quality animal proteins. We like manufacturers to disclose the approximate percentage of meat, poultry, or fish in their food, but they rarely will, so we look for foods that appear to have lots of animal protein. Ingredients are listed in order or their weight, so ideally a food will have one or two animal proteins in the first few ingredients. Understand that whole meat (chicken, beef, lamb, etc.) contains a lot of water weight. If a food list starts out with chicken, and there is no other animal protein listed until 7th or 8th on the list, the food does not actually contain a lot of animal protein. But if it starts out with chicken, and chicken (or another animal) "meal" (essentially dehydrated chicken) is number two or three on the list, chances are the product contains an admirable amount of animal protein. Animal proteins tend to be more digestible and palatable than plant proteins and offer a wider array of essential and nonessential amino acids. We reject any food containing meat by-products or poultry by-products. ItÂs just about impossible to ascertain the quality of by-products used by a food manufacturer. WeÂve spoken to representatives who swore they used only the finest sources of by-products, but when asked, they all say that! The fact is, there is a much wider range of quality in the by-products available for pet food manufacturing than there is for whole meats. Whole meats are expensive, and because they are expensive, dog food makers insist on their quality to an extent that is unreasonable when buying bargain-basement by-products. So, because the quality cannot be confirmed, we advise that you just avoid foods that contain by-products. NOTE: Some of our past selections do contain meat and/or poultry by-products. To winnow down our list to the very best foods possible, we no longer select products that contain meat or poultry by-products.  We reject foods containing fat or protein not identified by species. "Animal fat" is a euphemism for a low-quality, low-priced mix of fats of uncertain origin. "Meat meal" could be anything. We shudder.  We look for the use of whole grains and vegetables. That said, some grains and vegetables have valuable constituents that accomplish specific tasks in a dog food formula. We donÂt think itÂs worth getting too excited about one vegetable fragment and one grain by-product on the ingredients panel. Our tolerance diminishes in direct proportion to the number of fragments and by-products contained in a food and the prominence on a label; the more there are, and/or the higher they appear on the ingredients list, the lower-quality the food.  We eliminate all foods with artificial colors, flavors, or preservatives listed on their ingredients panels. NOTE: Some ingredients  usually fats, and some fish products  arrive at the pet food factory containing artificial preservatives; these do not have to be disclosed on the ingredient list, since the maker did not add them.  We eliminate all foods with added sweeteners. Dogs, like people, enjoy sweet foods. Like people, they can develop a taste for these nutritionally empty calories. To meet our approval, food need not offer the following. But we like it when they do.  We really appreciate it when the date-code or production code is easy to find, read, and interpret.  The more items listed on a product labelÂs "guaranteed analysis," the better.  We like to see the caloric content of the food listed on the label.  It makes things so much easier when all of the food makerÂs contact information (address, phone, Web address) is listed on its product labels.  We feel better when a food has passed an AAFCO feeding trial.  We appreciate organic ingredients. WDJÂs Dry Dog Food Selection Criteria 8:FEBRUARY 2005 Copyright © 2005, Belvoir Media Group, LLC

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE - August 14, 2013 - The Procter & Gamble Company (P&G) has voluntarily recalled specific lots of dry pet food because they have the potential to be contaminated with Salmonella. These lots were distributed in the United States and represent roughly one-tenth of one percent (0.1%) of annual production. No Salmonella-related illnesses have been reported to date in association with these product lots. Salmonella can affect animals eating the products and there is risk to humans from handling contaminated pet products, especially if they have not thoroughly washed their hands after having contact with the products or any surfaces exposed to these products. Healthy people infected with Salmonella should monitor themselves for some or all of the following symptoms: nausea, vomiting, diarrhea or bloody diarrhea, abdominal cramping and fever. Rarely, Salmonella can result in more serious ailments, including arterial infections, endocarditis, arthritis, muscle pain, eye irritation, and urinary tract symptoms. Consumers exhibiting these signs after having contact with this product should contact their healthcare providers. Pets with Salmonella infections may be lethargic and have diarrhea or bloody diarrhea, fever, and vomiting. Some pets will have only decreased appetite, fever and abdominal pain. Infected but otherwise healthy pets can be carriers and infect other animals or humans. If your pet has consumed the recalled product and has these symptoms, please contact your veterinarian. This issue is limited to the specific dry pet food lot codes listed below. This affects roughly one-tenth of one percent (0.1%) of total annual production. The affected product was distributed to select retailers across the United States. These products were made during a 10 day window at a single manufacturing site. P&G�s routine testing determined that some products made during this timeframe have the potential for Salmonella contamination. As a precautionary measure, P&G is recalling the potentially impacted products made during this timeframe. No other dry dog food, dry cat food, dog or cat canned wet food, biscuits/treats or supplements are affected by this announcement. P&G is retrieving these products as a precautionary measure. Consumers who purchased a product listed below should stop using the product and discard it and contact P&G toll-free at 800-208-0172 (Monday � Friday, 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM EST), or via website at www.iams.com or www.eukanuba.com. Media Contact: Jason Taylor 513-622-1111. Products affected by this announcement: EUKANUBA DRY DOG FOODS Description Size Lot Code UPC Code Best-by Date Eukanuba Dog Food Base Large Breed Mature Adult 15 LB 31874177 19014270156 6Nov14 30 LB 31874177 19014270309 6Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Base Maintenance Mature Adult 30 LB 31954177 19014149308 14Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Base Maintenance Puppy 16.5 LB 31884177 19014042234 7Nov14 33 LB 31884177 19014609468 7Nov14 5 LB 31884177 19014039852 7Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Base Small Breed Adult 16 LB 31904177 19014010516 9Nov14 4 LB 31904177 19014039722 9Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Base Small Breed Puppy 16 LB 31944177 19014010509 13Nov14 4 LB 31874177 19014039678 6Nov14 40 LB 31874177 19014011070 6Nov14 31944177 19014011070 13Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Breed Specific Boxer Adult 36 LB 31944177 19014019588 13Nov14 31954177 19014019588 14Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Breed Specific Chihuahua Adult 4 LB 31884177 19014607037 7Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Breed Specific Labrador Retriever Adult 36 LB 31954177 19014019564 14Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Premium Performance 30/20 Adult 33 LB 31884177 19014609475 7Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Professional Feeding Bag Small Breed Puppy 44 LB 31874177 19014113194 6Nov14 Eukanuba Dog Food Weight Control Large Breed Adult 30 LB 31894177 19014269303 8Nov14 31924177 19014269303 11Nov14 IAMS DRY DOG FOODS Description Size Lot Code UPC Code Best-by Date Iams Dog Food Healthy Naturals Chicken Adult 13.3 LB 31884177 19014612017 7Nov14 31904177 19014612017 9Nov14 31924177 19014612017 11Nov14 31934177 19014612017 12Nov14 31944177 19014612017 13Nov14 2.9 LB 31944177 19014700165 13Nov14 25.7 LB 31884177 19014700646 7Nov14 31894177 19014700646 8Nov14 31904177 19014700646 9Nov14 31914177 19014700646 10Nov14 31934177 19014700646 12Nov14 5 LB 31904177 19014612635 9Nov14 31914177 19014612635 10Nov14 Iams Dog Food Healthy Naturals Weight Control Adult 13.3 LB 31894177 19014612024 8Nov14 Iams Dog Food Premium Protection Chicken Adult 12.1 LB 31894177 19014611362 8Nov14 Iams Dog Food ProActive Health Large Breed Mature Adult 30 LB 31884177 19014611331 7Nov14 Iams Dog Food ProActive Health Large Breed Senior Plus 13.3 LB 31934177 19014612000 12Nov14 26.2 LB 31934177 19014700615 12Nov14 Iams Dog Food ProActive Health Large Chunks Adult 15 LB 31944177 19014610815 13Nov14 Iams Dog Food ProActive Health Small Breed Adult 13.3 LB 31874177 19014610990 6Nov14 31894177 19014610990 8Nov14 31924177 19014610990 11Nov14 3.1 LB 31874177 19014700110 6Nov14 31894177 19014700110 8Nov14 5 LB 31874177 19014612055 6Nov14 31894177 19014612055 8Nov14 31924177 19014612055 11Nov14 Iams Dog Food ProActive Health Small Breed Puppy 5 LB 31904177 19014700943 9Nov14 IAMS DRY CAT FOODS Description Size Lot Code UPC Code Best-by Date Iams Cat Food Healthy Naturals Chicken Adult 16 LB 31874177 19014611881 6Nov14 31944177 19014611881 13Nov14 5 LB 31874177 19014612697 6Nov14 31944177 19014612697 13Nov14 Iams Cat Food Healthy Naturals Weight Control Adult 5 LB 31894177 19014612703 8Nov14 Iams Cat Food ProActive Health Chicken Adult 10.8 LB 31864177 19014612086 5Nov14 31904177 19014612086 9Nov14 31914177 19014612086 10Nov14 31924177 19014612086 11Nov14 31944177 19014612086 13Nov14 17.4 LB 31864177 19014611836 5Nov14 31864177 19014611836 5Nov14 31914177 19014611836 10Nov14 31924177 19014611836 11Nov14 31944177 19014611836 13Nov14 3.2 LB 31904177 19014612659 9Nov14 31924177 19014612659 11Nov14 31934177 19014612659 12Nov14 31944177 19014612659 13Nov14 5.7 LB 31864177 19014612499 5Nov14 31914177 19014612499 10Nov14 31924177 19014612499 11Nov14 31944177 19014612499 13Nov14 6.3 LB 31944177 19014611621 13Nov14 Iams Cat Food ProActive Health Chicken Kitten 17.4 LB 31904177 19014611867 9Nov14 3.2 LB 31904177 19014612628 9Nov14 31954177 19014612628 14Nov14 5.7 LB 31904177 19014612505 9Nov14 31904177 19014612505 9Nov14 31954177 19014612505 14Nov14 Iams Cat Food ProActive Health Digestive Care Adult 16 LB 31904177 19014611904 9Nov14 31954177 19014611904 14Nov14 3 LB 31904177 19014700202 9Nov14 31954177 19014700202 14Nov14 5 LB 31904177 19014612451 9Nov14 31954177 19014612451 14Nov14 Iams Cat Food ProActive Health Hairball Adult 16 LB 31874177 19014611911 6Nov14 31954177 19014611911 14Nov14 3.1 LB 31884177 19014700219 7Nov14 31914177 19014700219 10Nov14 31954177 19014700219 14Nov14 5 LB 31874177 19014612420 6Nov14 31884177 19014612420 7Nov14 31914177 19014612420 10Nov14 31934177 19014612420 12Nov14 31954177 19014612420 14Nov14 9.8 LB 31894177 19014612161 8Nov14 31914177 19014612161 10Nov14 Iams Cat Food ProActive Health Hairball Mature Adult 5 LB 31954177 19014612604 14Nov14 Iams Cat Food ProActive Health Weight Control & Hairball Adult 16 LB 31884177 19014612147 7Nov14 31914177 19014612147 10Nov14 31924177 19014612147 11Nov14 31934177 19014612147 12Nov14 31944177 19014612147 13Nov14 2.9 LB 31914177 19014700240 10Nov14 31924177 19014700240 11Nov14 31934177 19014700240 12Nov14 31944177 19014700240 13Nov14 31954177 19014700257 14Nov14 5 LB 31884177 19014612789 7Nov14 31914177 19014612789 10Nov14 31924177 19014612789 11Nov14 31934177 19014612789 12Nov14 31954177 19014612789 14Nov14 5.5 LB 31924177 19014611652 11Nov14 9.8 LB 31884177 19014612130 7Nov14 31914177 19014612130 10Nov14 31924177 19014612130 11Nov14 31934177 19014612130 12Nov14 31944177 19014612130 13Nov14 Iams Cat Food ProActive Health Weight Control Adult 16 LB 31874177 19014612178 6Nov14 31934177 19014612178 12Nov14 5 LB 31874177 19014612680 6Nov14 31934177 19014612680 12Nov14 9.8 LB 31874177 19014612123 6Nov14 Iams Cat Food Professional Feeding Bag Chicken Adult 33 LB 31914177 19014105458 10Nov14 31944177 19014105458 13Nov14

This is from the dog food project website and says that meal is not lesser quality meat: Contrary to what many people believe, meat sources in "meal" form (as long as they are from a specified type of animal, such as chicken meal, lamb meal, salmon meal etc.) are not inferior to whole, fresh meats. Meals consist of meat and skin, with or without the bones, but exclusive of feathers/hair, heads, feet, horns, entrails etc. and have the proper calcium/phosphorus ratio required for a balanced diet. They have had most of the moisture removed, but meats in their original, "wet" form still contain up to 75% water. Once the food reaches its final moisture content of about 9-12%, the meat will have shrunk to sometimes as little as 1/4 of the original amount, while the already dehydrated meal form remains the same and you get more concentrated protein per pound of finished product. This means that in the worst case you are left with only 4 ounces of actual meat content per pound of fresh meat included in a dry kibble, many of which contain less than one pound of meat per 2-3 pounds of grain to begin with. Preferably a food contains quality meat meal as well as some fresh meat.