You're welcome! It's not odd that cooler zones will report more fragrance from many than warmer areas. Those in the cooler places are probably smelling them when the oils and alcohols are most volatile and smell the most. We in the warmer areas often miss out because they evaporate faster as the heat increases. Also, as aridity increases, the scents burn out faster. The various components of each rose's fragrance evaporate at different rates, so one may smell very Damask at first, quickly morphing into orris or citrus, finishing a completely different scent before losing any detectable trace for the day. Any user can access the Advanced Search, but Premium Membership permits you to specify multiple traits and types, where basic membership only provides Advanced Search using one criteria. Kim

Hi Nev, great colour intensity and lots of red! I had one last year that looked terrific for several months - almost yellow with lots of red striations and really bright, then the leaves burnt off badly as the winter sun dropped below the roof line (just through 30% shadecloth on the front), so I moved it back into a more shaded spot and it promptly went green with not much contrast in the pattern. Haven't worked out my plan of attack yet for the pups when they come off, but I'd be really interested in what sort of lighting people find best. Cheers, Paul

So it’s Spring here in my Michigan Zone 6b garden and I’ve been reading this thread about this stunning Amazing Grace rose. I grew this rose a a few years ago and was one who provided a review on Heirloom. I have been seriously pining after this rose since removing it due to black spot. I just ordered two more from Heirloom to give it another go. I see couple of you are from Murrieta where my mother had an abundance of roses surrounding a full concrete patio and they loved the heat and had no disease…can’t say that for Michigan. Wish me luck!!

Lavenderlace and Ben, Thanks for your input! I shovel pruned Savannah because of its flat blooms. I couldn't stomach looking at it after a while. The flower color washed out to dead common beige, too. It also was touchy concerning winter hardiness...never came back strong enough in the spring to make much progress. I had great expectations concerning Belinda's Dream; planted four of them some years ago. In my garden it never got more than 14" tall growth by seasons end; dying to the ground every winter even with protection! They've been gone a while now. So much for her Earth Kind designation, as far as my garden conditions go. BTW, Carefree Beauty black spotted here with the best of them. The several I had great hopes for are gone long ago. Every garden is different. The factors that make or break a rose around here are typical of the North East: hot, humid summers; cold, rose killing winters, and heavy, clay soil. In addition, I garden about 80 miles south of the snow belt. The insulating benefits of snow cover as well as freezing and thawing, come and go all winter here, creating havoc. My USDA designation as zone 6b does not take into account the hit or miss snow cover, and unpredictable freeze/thaws. Zone 6 plants, perennials in particular, freeze and thaw all winter, and rot out by spring. It's more like a zone 5 here. Butterfly Bush, Buddleia, is a shaky bet to grow here. The dwarfs rot out in their first winter. Any fragrance type a rose has, and as powerful as possible is my war cry. The mix of every conceivable scent in the garden which wafts over to me seated in my favorite garden chair is what I covet. I like them all. Amazing Grace's scent will suit me just fine. I'll put down some Azomite mineral on AG. That ought to keep her blooms plump when vased up. Moses